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Aug 24, 2014 12:29:07   #
fbluhm Loc: San Antonio, TX
 
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Aug 24, 2014 12:46:11   #
tdekany Loc: Oregon
 
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caused God to curse Adam.


If god IS love, love would never judge and therefore would neve "curse". Only the EGO can judge and hate. That is man. Last I looked, god wasn't supposed to be human. I can not believe that in this day and age an adult person can believe such idiotic idea.

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Aug 24, 2014 12:48:06   #
neen Loc: Michigan
 
Far North wrote:
In the final analysis, DNA, cells, the human or animal body are so complex in nature and specific in purpose that it would be ludicrous to assume that life originated accidentally as the result of a chance bolt of lightning into a pool of just the right kind of ooze and now here we all are. For me that just doesn't make any sense. You can draw your own conclusions from that. Each life form is truly unique unto its own self, yet there is a relationship among all life forms. Ask, "Why are there insects?" and the answer seems to be that they provide food for other other creatures, or something a bug does is beneficial to the vegetation. Yet many of the other creatures provide food for humans and other critters. It's a big circle, and how did that come about. The missing link is missing because, IMO, it's not there. I believe each species is unique to itself, and no one individual type came from another, totally different type of life form. Scientists have determined that all DNA is essentially the same, yet there are differences that set apart one species or type of life form from the others. So you have to ask yourself, how did this occur? Did an intelligence greater than our own conceive this? The Bible tells us that the evidence of God is in all His creations around us. So if we can't create any of this, despite all the technology at our hands today, than who did?
In the final analysis, DNA, cells, the human or an... (show quote)


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Aug 24, 2014 12:48:08   #
letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.
 
Bangee5 wrote:
Or, it shows that Adam's and Eve's will power was weaker.


Just maybe Adam and Eve happened on a burning bush of MaryJane. That would explain the talking snake.

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Aug 24, 2014 12:53:45   #
tdekany Loc: Oregon
 
mort wrote:
round and round in circles , but no one has attempted to answer the question i
proposed in a previous post . a creator of this complex universe must be the
of the greatest intelligence imaginable . who or what created this intelligence ?
creating a god does not answer anything . and my other question , why would
this great entity want us to pray to it all the time and need us to tell it how great
it is ?


Right! That to me discribes a narcissistic sociopath not a loving creator.

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Aug 24, 2014 12:56:32   #
letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.
 
Gnslngr wrote:
Hold the presses. Stop the world. Some fellow on UHH has proven, after centuries of man's questioning, the existence of god. Turns out all we had to do was look at youtube.

What pathetic saps the religious are.
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Be nice, they are entitled to their beliefs.

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Aug 24, 2014 12:58:17   #
jthomas Loc: Lancaster, PA
 
I'm already a "Believer" but thanks for the additional wealth of food for thought!

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Aug 24, 2014 13:05:07   #
letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.
 
tdekany wrote:
If god IS love, love would never judge and therefore would neve "curse". Only the EGO can judge and hate. That is man. Last I looked, god wasn't supposed to be human. I can not believe that in this day and age an adult person can believe such idiotic idea.




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If man did not exist would there be God?

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Aug 24, 2014 13:12:13   #
fbluhm Loc: San Antonio, TX
 
tdekany wrote:
If god IS love, love would never judge and therefore would neve "curse". Only the EGO can judge and hate. That is man. Last I looked, god wasn't supposed to be human. I can not believe that in this day and age an adult person can believe such idiotic idea.


Hard to believe that someone would suggest that God would curse his own creation, especially when he knew in advance what was going to happen.

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Aug 24, 2014 13:17:51   #
PNagy Loc: Missouri City, Texas
 
Steve40: sin brought sickness, disease, and death to the world. All are subject to the consequences of sin's actions.

Nagy: Really? Herbivorous fish are also prone to illness and disease; did they sin? How about those simple organisms that are not capable of conscious thought? Did they sin, too? Steve, you are a world class fool.

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Aug 24, 2014 13:20:26   #
steve40 Loc: Asheville/Canton, NC, USA
 
papakatz45 wrote:
If God allowed man to "sin" then he did not create a perfect world. Why should an unborn baby have to suffer because its mother was an alcoholic or drug user? The child did not sin, the mother did. Why would a perfect God allow suffering of people who have not caused their own suffering?


You, and I were born in sin, with a sinful nature. There are none innocent, and death, sickness, and suffering play no favorites. We all suffer from the same consequences. Even the earth, which is not a living being suffers from the consequences of original sin.

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Aug 24, 2014 13:22:33   #
PNagy Loc: Missouri City, Texas
 
STEVE40God doesn't make mistakes, man does.

Nagy: Mistakes like Steve40, a refugee from the movie Deliverence?

Steve40: When Adam sinned it caused God to curse Adam, and the ground he came from.

Nagy: Is the ground responsible for what Adam did, or is the ground being subjected to collective punishment?

Steve4o: As a result Sickness, and death became a part of mans life.
When God created the World, all was perfect. But it was the introduction of sin, that has caused the imperfections.

Nagy: Everything was prefect before man sinned. When did man sin, not more than 100,000 years ago, yet the fossil record proves that organism suffered illnesses like arthritis long before that. Steve, you are nonsense incarnate.

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Aug 24, 2014 13:24:14   #
steve40 Loc: Asheville/Canton, NC, USA
 
fbluhm wrote:
Steve40 is probably a big Pat Robertson fan. Funny thing about people who always seem to know what God wants them to do - I notice it always coincides with their own desires.


No, wrong again. Not! a fan of Pat Robertson at all. We are on two different sides of the coin, theologically.

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Aug 24, 2014 13:24:46   #
letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.
 
PNagy wrote:
STEVE40God doesn't make mistakes, man does.

Nagy: Mistakes like Steve40, a refugee from the movie Deliverence?

Steve40: When Adam sinned it caused God to curse Adam, and the ground he came from.

Nagy: Is the ground responsible for what Adam did, or is the ground being subjected to collective punishment?

Steve4o: As a result Sickness, and death became a part of mans life.
When God created the World, all was perfect. But it was the introduction of sin, that has caused the imperfections.

Nagy: Everything was prefect before man sinned. When did man sin, not more than 100,000 years ago, yet the fossil record proves that organism suffered illnesses like arthritis long before that. Steve, you are nonsense incarnate.
STEVE40God doesn't make mistakes, man does. br b... (show quote)


Steve has been to Just one to many Revivals.

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Aug 24, 2014 13:26:05   #
PNagy Loc: Missouri City, Texas
 
steve40: If you have smoked, its your fault. other than that it is a result of sin, sin brought sickness, disease, and death to the world. All are subject to the consequences of sin's actions. Even to the most devout Christian. In spite of what the "name it and claim it" crowd claims.


Bazamac: You really are quite the nastiest person on this forum, aren't you. People, including children suffer and die as a result of agonising diseases and it's down to people's sin. What an obnoxious philosophy.


Nagy: Bazamac, smiting innocent children for the sins of adults is a case of collective punishment. This is proscribed by imperfect human institutions, such as the Third Geneva Convention, but regularly used by the allegedly perfect Yahweh, who is actually a murderous, arbitrary psychopath.

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