Ugly Hedgehog - Photography Forum
Home Active Topics Newest Pictures Search Login Register ☰
Photo Gallery
Day 54 - Photo A Day Challenge - 2-23-2012
Page <<first <prev 5 of 35 next> last>>
Feb 23, 2012 10:17:13   #
Sher Loc: Colorful Colorado
 
[quote=photogrl57]
mgstrawn

Great challenge and something that I have been studying, but I still find myself on 'auto.' No Grandbabies today, so I have a much needed break! But, I am really needing to dust, etc. Lol![/quote wrote:


Well the good thing about this challenge is you won't even need to leave the house. Just open the curtains .. set up the camera in the center of the room so you get some inside info as well as the outside info ... and use that difference in lighting as what you are going to compensate for. The ideal photo in this instance would be to be able to see the interior (without using a flash) and yet still see outdoors without being too bright. It's a trickier shot but doable. The important step is to make sure the camera is on program mode .... so you won't have to worry about the ISO, fstop, or shutter speed.... just the exposure. :)
br br Well the good thing about this challenge i... (show quote)

So do we leave it on program mode the whole time, even after adjusting exposure??

Reply
Feb 23, 2012 10:19:41   #
photogrl57 Loc: Tennessee
 
[quote=Sherrie]
photogrl57 wrote:
mgstrawn

Great challenge and something that I have been studying, but I still find myself on 'auto.' No Grandbabies today, so I have a much needed break! But, I am really needing to dust, etc. Lol![/quote wrote:


Well the good thing about this challenge is you won't even need to leave the house. Just open the curtains .. set up the camera in the center of the room so you get some inside info as well as the outside info ... and use that difference in lighting as what you are going to compensate for. The ideal photo in this instance would be to be able to see the interior (without using a flash) and yet still see outdoors without being too bright. It's a trickier shot but doable. The important step is to make sure the camera is on program mode .... so you won't have to worry about the ISO, fstop, or shutter speed.... just the exposure. :)
br br Well the good thing about this challenge i... (show quote)

So do we leave it on program mode the whole time, even after adjusting exposure??
quote=mgstrawn br br Great challenge and somethi... (show quote)


Yes ! That way you let the camera do all the work.. with the exception of adjusting the exposure. I know shooting in that mode will be challenging .. I rarely if ever use it .. but for this one challenge it's less to think about.

Reply
Feb 23, 2012 10:20:39   #
Janice Loc: Kentucky
 
photogrl57 wrote:
Janice wrote:
photogrl57 wrote:


I probably shouldn't have said the word histogram LOL ... it really doesn't matter for this challenge ... the histogram is the camera's information about how it metered the scene. The auto metering system in the camera isn't failsafe. It has to take in all the information and then average the darks and the lights to decide what settings to use for the photo. By adjusting the exposure value (EV) we are telling the camera to use the settings it choose but then move them over to start where we say instead. For instance .. the camera always wants to start at 0 and adjust the ISO, and fstop, and shutter speed to get the best overall photograph. By moving the exposure to say -1 or +1 we are in effect forcing it to do as we say not as it wants to do.
br br I probably shouldn't have said the word hi... (show quote)


This is not ISO, aperture, or shutter speed - it is exposure compensation - I think I have that on my camera...
quote=photogrl57 br br I probably shouldn't hav... (show quote)


I don't know what kind of camera you have hun .. but if you can see the histogram then I would have to say yes you have this capability.
Put the camera on P or program mode ... it should be the very first choice on the dial where all the camera auto settings are ... such as auto,night,macro,landscape,portrait etc are. Going in the opposite direction you should (in theory) also have P,AV,TV(shutter priority),M, and maybe A-DEP ... put it on P (or the first setting from auto) and look through the viewfinder .. push the shutter half way down so you can see the settings ... those numbers should be there with the arrow at the center point. On my camera near the screen there is a button marked AV with an icon that is half black/half white with the +/- symbols on it .. I have to press that button and turn the dial(same dial you adjust the fstop with) at the same time to adjust the exposure .. (move the arrow off center)
quote=Janice quote=photogrl57 br br I probably... (show quote)


I have a canon sx30 - it's a bridge camera (super zoom) - I just looked it up and I know how to do it now - lol - I have had this camera since September but learning more about it every day

Reply
 
 
Feb 23, 2012 10:25:20   #
photogrl57 Loc: Tennessee
 
Janice wrote:
photogrl57 wrote:
Janice wrote:
photogrl57 wrote:


I probably shouldn't have said the word histogram LOL ... it really doesn't matter for this challenge ... the histogram is the camera's information about how it metered the scene. The auto metering system in the camera isn't failsafe. It has to take in all the information and then average the darks and the lights to decide what settings to use for the photo. By adjusting the exposure value (EV) we are telling the camera to use the settings it choose but then move them over to start where we say instead. For instance .. the camera always wants to start at 0 and adjust the ISO, and fstop, and shutter speed to get the best overall photograph. By moving the exposure to say -1 or +1 we are in effect forcing it to do as we say not as it wants to do.
br br I probably shouldn't have said the word hi... (show quote)


This is not ISO, aperture, or shutter speed - it is exposure compensation - I think I have that on my camera...
quote=photogrl57 br br I probably shouldn't hav... (show quote)


I don't know what kind of camera you have hun .. but if you can see the histogram then I would have to say yes you have this capability.
Put the camera on P or program mode ... it should be the very first choice on the dial where all the camera auto settings are ... such as auto,night,macro,landscape,portrait etc are. Going in the opposite direction you should (in theory) also have P,AV,TV(shutter priority),M, and maybe A-DEP ... put it on P (or the first setting from auto) and look through the viewfinder .. push the shutter half way down so you can see the settings ... those numbers should be there with the arrow at the center point. On my camera near the screen there is a button marked AV with an icon that is half black/half white with the +/- symbols on it .. I have to press that button and turn the dial(same dial you adjust the fstop with) at the same time to adjust the exposure .. (move the arrow off center)
quote=Janice quote=photogrl57 br br I probably... (show quote)


I have a canon sx30 - it's a bridge camera (super zoom) - I just looked it up and I know how to do it now - lol - I have had this camera since September but learning more about it every day
quote=photogrl57 quote=Janice quote=photogrl57 ... (show quote)


:thumbup:

Reply
Feb 23, 2012 10:35:35   #
Shutterbug305 Loc: Iowa
 
Janice wrote:
photogrl57 wrote:
Janice wrote:
photogrl57 wrote:


I probably shouldn't have said the word histogram LOL ... it really doesn't matter for this challenge ... the histogram is the camera's information about how it metered the scene. The auto metering system in the camera isn't failsafe. It has to take in all the information and then average the darks and the lights to decide what settings to use for the photo. By adjusting the exposure value (EV) we are telling the camera to use the settings it choose but then move them over to start where we say instead. For instance .. the camera always wants to start at 0 and adjust the ISO, and fstop, and shutter speed to get the best overall photograph. By moving the exposure to say -1 or +1 we are in effect forcing it to do as we say not as it wants to do.
br br I probably shouldn't have said the word hi... (show quote)


This is not ISO, aperture, or shutter speed - it is exposure compensation - I think I have that on my camera...
quote=photogrl57 br br I probably shouldn't hav... (show quote)


I don't know what kind of camera you have hun .. but if you can see the histogram then I would have to say yes you have this capability.
Put the camera on P or program mode ... it should be the very first choice on the dial where all the camera auto settings are ... such as auto,night,macro,landscape,portrait etc are. Going in the opposite direction you should (in theory) also have P,AV,TV(shutter priority),M, and maybe A-DEP ... put it on P (or the first setting from auto) and look through the viewfinder .. push the shutter half way down so you can see the settings ... those numbers should be there with the arrow at the center point. On my camera near the screen there is a button marked AV with an icon that is half black/half white with the +/- symbols on it .. I have to press that button and turn the dial(same dial you adjust the fstop with) at the same time to adjust the exposure .. (move the arrow off center)
quote=Janice quote=photogrl57 br br I probably... (show quote)


I have a canon sx30 - it's a bridge camera (super zoom) - I just looked it up and I know how to do it now - lol - I have had this camera since September but learning more about it every day
quote=photogrl57 quote=Janice quote=photogrl57 ... (show quote)


I know what you mean about learning more about your camera every day. I have attended college from 2000-2003 and returned to finish what I started back then in 2010 and still am attending college, to get a photography degree and have taken every photography class they offer. Still I haven't learned how to use everything on the camera they have had us learn on or my own that is like theirs only a couple steps up. I have a Canon T2i with a sigma 18-200mm OS lens that I just got in Dec 2011, and I am facinated by all it can do. Histograms are still my nemisis. lol

Reply
Feb 23, 2012 10:39:32   #
Janice Loc: Kentucky
 
Shutterbug305 wrote:

I know what you mean about learning more about your camera every day. I have attended college from 2000-2003 and returned to finish what I started back then in 2010 and still am attending college, to get a photography degree and have taken every photography class they offer. Still I haven't learned how to use everything on the camera they have had us learn on or my own that is like theirs only a couple steps up. I have a Canon T2i with a sigma 18-200mm OS lens that I just got in Dec 2011, and I am facinated by all it can do. Histograms are still my nemisis. lol
br I know what you mean about learning more about... (show quote)


Well, when we get it we will never lose it - its taking too much to grasp it!

Reply
Feb 23, 2012 10:41:20   #
PAToGraphy Loc: Portland ME area
 
mgstrawn wrote:
PAToGraphy wrote:
Photogrl this will drive me nuts! Pouring and ugly here, but I do bracket. I will try to give it a go - or just post some bracketed shots. It is a good learning experience. Too much for my brain this AM. This challenge makes me….


Lol, Pat! You're going to spoil us all with these pics of yourself that you've been posting every morning. I'm going to be looking for it every morning along with Frankie's daily rooster pic! By the way, I wish you weren't so far away or I'd ask you for violin lessons. My Grandfather was a talented violinist and I've held on all these years to my oldest daughter's violin in hopes to learn some day. She never pursued it after a year of lessons. To play the violin is on my bucket list! I know music well, and I feel that I could take it and run with after learning the basics and technique. One thing that intimidates me is that my double chin becomes so prevalent when holding the violin in position! Lol!
quote=PAToGraphy Photogrl this will drive me nuts... (show quote)


DOn't let a double chin stop you! Start sooner rather than later, that would be my advice.

Reply
 
 
Feb 23, 2012 10:44:24   #
Osuzzannah
 
This is my first time with bracketing a picture. I did not even know that I could do that with my camera!!







Reply
Feb 23, 2012 10:46:02   #
photogrl57 Loc: Tennessee
 
Here is an example of how just this one little change in exposure can affect the histogram .. but remember this is just the info that the camera saves about the light and dark colors in the photo.
The photo on the left is at a 0 base exposure
The photo on the right was adjusted to a -2 full stops

comparison of histogram changes with exposure compensation
comparison of histogram changes with exposure comp...

Reply
Feb 23, 2012 10:46:28   #
PAToGraphy Loc: Portland ME area
 
Sherrie wrote:
PAToGraphy wrote:
Photogrl this will drive me nuts! Pouring and ugly here, but I do bracket. I will try to give it a go - or just post some bracketed shots. It is a good learning experience. Too much for my brain this AM. This challenge makes me….


Hmmmm, you are looking a little like your husband this morning....you know they say that the longer you are with someone the more you look alike.....Handsome devil!!! lol


I knew it was time to retire when I had to start shaving every day!

Reply
Feb 23, 2012 10:48:59   #
MissStephie Loc: West Virginia
 
photogrl57 wrote:
MissStephie wrote:
nope - it shows I need a flash but it doesn't automatically pop up - I actually have to push the button in & then go into settings & go to the flash 2 turn it on. stupid camera, lol :mrgreen:


well that could be a good thing. LOL ... ok is there an adjustment for lighter or darker in your menu ?


I think so. (I will put them on here too of what I think your trying to ask)
I'm gonna put a couple pics I just took of 2 things I have a question on - It doesn't have anything to do with lighter or darker - but I was just curious as to what they do, cant seem to find enuff info on this stuff.

I dont mean to be a pain in the keester - you dont have to answer right now - I know there's only so much time in the day ;)

P mode
P mode...

M mode - do not get this one - pics are always dark?
M mode - do not get this one - pics are always dar...

lighter/darker button - right? :D
lighter/darker button - right? :D...

Metering - need more info on what each thing does
Metering - need more info on what each thing does...

similar 2 last pic - still confusing, lol.
similar 2 last pic - still confusing, lol....

Reply
 
 
Feb 23, 2012 10:50:42   #
photogrl57 Loc: Tennessee
 
Osuzzannah wrote:
This is my first time with bracketing a picture. I did not even know that I could do that with my camera!!


By looking at the photos I'm thinking they are out of order ... #1 looks to be at 0 base exposure
#2 looks to be at -1
#3 looks to be at +1
Well done on the bracketing ...
Which one do you feel is the proper exposure for the scene ?

Reply
Feb 23, 2012 10:55:24   #
Sher Loc: Colorful Colorado
 
Osuzzannah wrote:
This is my first time with bracketing a picture. I did not even know that I could do that with my camera!!


Great job....I love that house, is it yours?

Reply
Feb 23, 2012 11:02:40   #
photogrl57 Loc: Tennessee
 
MissStephie wrote:
photogrl57 wrote:
MissStephie wrote:
nope - it shows I need a flash but it doesn't automatically pop up - I actually have to push the button in & then go into settings & go to the flash 2 turn it on. stupid camera, lol :mrgreen:


well that could be a good thing. LOL ... ok is there an adjustment for lighter or darker in your menu ?


I think so. (I will put them on here too of what I think your trying to ask)
I'm gonna put a couple pics I just took of 2 things I have a question on - It doesn't have anything to do with lighter or darker - but I was just curious as to what they do, cant seem to find enuff info on this stuff.

I dont mean to be a pain in the keester - you dont have to answer right now - I know there's only so much time in the day ;)
quote=photogrl57 quote=MissStephie nope - it sh... (show quote)


Wonderful pictures to learn from actually :)
the first one ... see the 0.0 ? That is actually the exposure value .. meaning it is set to a 0 base exposure. That is where you should start for this challenge.
See the arrows on either side of the 0.0? Those will take you to the negative side of 0 for overexposure compensation and to the positive side of 0 for underexposure compensation ... excellent.

The second picture .. manual mode ... see the -1.0? That means your exposure value is set to the negative side of 0 ... which is why all the photos would naturally turn out darker .. That can be adjusted back to the 0 base exposure. ..

The last picture the metering mode .. there are 3 metering modes in your camera
the middle one is spot metering .. that means it concentrates on the very center of the photo for the metering of the colors in the scene .. just a small area in the middle.
the bottom one is center weighted.. that means it takes into consideration more of the middle of the sceen ... a wider circle but still in the center ..
the top one ESP or evaluative takes into account almost the entire screen when choosing how to meter for the sceen ...
Very nice learning tool hun .. good job on posting.

Reply
Feb 23, 2012 11:06:10   #
Roadrunner Loc: Quebec, Canada
 
Not strutting around with my thumbs in my suspenders, but it is relatively easy.

I went out this morn and did it in Manual and adjusted the pluses and minuses. Will post in a bit...


photogrl57 wrote:
MissStephie wrote:
awesome RR - :mrgreen: I see the difference
- I'm still not liking this chanllenge any better, PG57 - LOL :cry: I really need to read up on what all this stuff means again, Fstops, iso, aperature, shutter speeds - it reminds me of a foreign language - I didn't take one of those in school, either :) I get confused really easy. I did buy a book - photography for dummies ;) maybe it will help some


Yes it can be confusing. That was why I suggested putting the camera in program (p) mode so you wouldn't need to worry about those things. Let the camera do the heavy lifting in this case. P or program mode is pretty much like shooting in auto except the flash won't automatically come on.
quote=MissStephie awesome RR - :mrgreen: I see ... (show quote)

Reply
Page <<first <prev 5 of 35 next> last>>
If you want to reply, then register here. Registration is free and your account is created instantly, so you can post right away.
Photo Gallery
Home | Latest Digest | Back to Top | All Sections
Contact us | Privacy policy | Terms of use | DMCA
UglyHedgehog.com - Forum
Copyright 2011-2024 Ugly Hedgehog, Inc.