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Feb 21, 2012 20:17:50   #
cdsforme Loc: Annapolis, MD
 
jekbeck60 wrote:
I like the sound of a 70 - 200 f2.8 (if there is a black jacket for it) with a doubler, that's something I will look at along with the Canon 70 -300 IS 4-5.6.


Remember, if you get the 70-200 2.8 and use a 2x teleconverter, you've turned the lens into a 140-400 f/5.6. I haven't tried it, but I've heard you lose a lot of sharpness with the teleconverter.

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Feb 21, 2012 21:02:30   #
jekbeck60
 
Ah - I forgot about that, thanks for reminding me.

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Feb 21, 2012 21:24:16   #
the f/stops here Loc: New Mexico
 
Sorry to tell you but you can't use a Canon 1.4 or a 2X converter on the 70-200mm f/2.8 or f/4 lens. It won't fit. If you use a Sigma SP converter, it will fit but you won't be happy with the results.

The Canon 100-400mm lens or the Sigma 150-500mm lens or the Sigma 50-500 lens is the way to go inexpensively in my opinion. As to the fact that they are not fast, you are correct. After all, camera equipment is a compromise. You don't get fast and cheap and sharp in one lens. Pick any two you want. let me say that they are fast enough to allow the camera the ability to focus and you rarely expose wide open anyway.

My best, J. Goffe

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Feb 21, 2012 21:39:04   #
PNagy Loc: Missouri City, Texas
 
jekbeck60 wrote:
Wow, thanks to all of you for taking the time to give me your advice.

I don't like the putty colored lenses as I am an 'older' woman, often out on my own photographing and I just wouldn't feel so 'safe' as with a less inconspicuous lens. I looked for lens coats but couldn't find any black ones - I'll keep looking though.

I like the sound of a 70 - 200 f2.8 (if there is a black jacket for it) with a doubler, that's something I will look at along with the Canon 70 -300 IS 4-5.6.

I am glad that you have sufficient information for your question. As to having a conspicuous lens, it has never caused me a problem, except when people do not allow me to use it because of house rules against "professional" equipment. My most conspicuous lens is a 400mm WMD, which really looks gigantic with its hood. The spectators on Mount Scott mobbed me when I used it there, but in a friendly way. They had never seen anything like that and thought I was sent by National Geographic. I think you will be quite safe using your putty-colored Canon lenses.


Not sure I could handle something like the Sigma Big lenses.

Again. my thanks to all of you, you have been really helpful.
Wow, thanks to all of you for taking the time to g... (show quote)

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Feb 22, 2012 09:12:48   #
Jim Plogger Loc: East Tennessee
 
jekbeck60 wrote:
Wow, thanks to all of you for taking the time to give me your advice.

I don't like the putty colored lenses as I am an 'older' woman, often out on my own photographing and I just wouldn't feel so 'safe' as with a less inconspicuous lens. I looked for lens coats but couldn't find any black ones - I'll keep looking though.

I like the sound of a 70 - 200 f2.8 (if there is a black jacket for it) with a doubler, that's something I will look at along with the Canon 70 -300 IS 4-5.6.


Not sure I could handle something like the Sigma Big lenses.

Again. my thanks to all of you, you have been really helpful.
Wow, thanks to all of you for taking the time to g... (show quote)


These reviews might help you decide:

http://photo.net/equipment/canon/tc1/

http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/Canon-EF-70-200mm-f-2.8-L-USM-Lens-Review.aspx

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/FrameWork/charts/canon2xExtender.html

Be sure to read the foot notes on the compatibility chart. This is very important.

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Feb 22, 2012 09:26:11   #
jimberton Loc: Michigan's Upper Peninsula
 
i have the 70-200mm2.8L IS and i love the lens..but i hate the white color. someone upstairs in canon got rocks in their head.

i also have the 24-70mm 2.8L lens and it is my absolutely favorite all around lens. it never comes off my 7d. i use this setup for 80% of all my shots. i keep the 70-200 on my 5d.

but the 24-70mm is black with the red ring..i love it!!!

i need to get a camoflage or cover for that 70-200. i really dislike that color.

i tossed a coin to choose between canon and nikon when i went to more pro bodies......if i would have known i was going to buy an L lens and saw the white lens..i would have not tossed the coin and bought nikon. i have never regretted buying canon as i tried out both before i bought...but i REALLY DISLIKE THE COLOR OF THAT 70-200MM.

if you buy that lens, prepare for some weight!! it's heavy. i would recommend renting one for a couple of days before you buy. borrowlenses.com is a great place to rent.

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Feb 22, 2012 17:32:18   #
pigpen
 
From what I understand, these white lenses are designed with the outdoor pros in mind (wildlife, sports). They are white instead of black for heat purposes, black absords heat (sunlight) and white reflects.

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Feb 22, 2012 18:12:09   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
Don't worry about bringing attention with having a white lens. The 100-400 is an outstanding lens. You won't be alone and others will just think you're a serious photographer. Why settle for next best?

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Feb 22, 2012 18:20:28   #
pigpen
 
SteveR wrote:
Don't worry about bringing attention with having a white lens. The 100-400 is an outstanding lens. You won't be alone and others will just think you're a serious photographer. Why settle for next best?


I agree!! Let your wallet control the purchase. If you can afford it, why settle for an inferior lens?

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Feb 22, 2012 19:06:42   #
jimberton Loc: Michigan's Upper Peninsula
 
pigpen wrote:
From what I understand, these white lenses are designed with the outdoor pros in mind (wildlife, sports). They are white instead of black for heat purposes, black absords heat (sunlight) and white reflects.


i didn't know that...thanks for the info!!

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Feb 22, 2012 20:05:19   #
olderguy Loc: South Dakota
 
jekbeck60 wrote:
Ha ha, your'e funny, thanks for making me laugh.
That photo was taken 60 years ago, but I love it.
Not too sure I AM able to handle a big lens though.


I took a friends suggestion and purchased a "Bushhawk" for my camera and a 300mm f/4 lens. You can not believe the difference it makes. They list for $169.00 but I purchased mind at Cabela's for $80.00.

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Feb 22, 2012 23:02:20   #
jekbeck60
 
So much wonderful information, again thanks everyone.

jimberton - am gonna check out the lens rentals. I think that's most sensible rather than putting pressure on myself to buy lenses before my planned trip to Big Bend State Park at the end of March. I can then save for the lenses I REALLY would like to own.

Thanks again y'all.

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Feb 22, 2012 23:32:48   #
eglide02 Loc: Titletown USA
 
I wonder where you got this from? I have a 70-200 2.8 and the 1.4 teleconverter and it works quite nicely together. I managed some of the best moon shots that I have ever taken. So I believe you are mistaken.
the f/stops here wrote:
Sorry to tell you but you can't use a Canon 1.4 or a 2X converter on the 70-200mm f/2.8 or f/4 lens. It won't fit. If you use a Sigma SP converter, it will fit but you won't be happy with the results.

The Canon 100-400mm lens or the Sigma 150-500mm lens or the Sigma 50-500 lens is the way to go inexpensively in my opinion. As to the fact that they are not fast, you are correct. After all, camera equipment is a compromise. You don't get fast and cheap and sharp in one lens. Pick any two you want. let me say that they are fast enough to allow the camera the ability to focus and you rarely expose wide open anyway.

My best, J. Goffe
Sorry to tell you but you can't use a Canon 1.4 or... (show quote)

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Feb 23, 2012 08:50:17   #
Jim Plogger Loc: East Tennessee
 
the f/stops here wrote:
Sorry to tell you but you can't use a Canon 1.4 or a 2X converter on the 70-200mm f/2.8 or f/4 lens. It won't fit. If you use a Sigma SP converter, it will fit but you won't be happy with the results.

The Canon 100-400mm lens or the Sigma 150-500mm lens or the Sigma 50-500 lens is the way to go inexpensively in my opinion. As to the fact that they are not fast, you are correct. After all, camera equipment is a compromise. You don't get fast and cheap and sharp in one lens. Pick any two you want. let me say that they are fast enough to allow the camera the ability to focus and you rarely expose wide open anyway.

My best, J. Goffe
Sorry to tell you but you can't use a Canon 1.4 or... (show quote)


Actually the Canon extenders will fit on all EOS cameras. The issue is that you lose some functionality with some lenses. They work very well with with Canon's 2.8 lenses but you may only get autofocus only from the center point. You may lose autofocus on the slower lenses. Here is an excellent compatibilty chart for reference:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/FrameWork/charts/canon2xExtender.html

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Feb 23, 2012 09:48:18   #
WLFreemanJr
 
You Know the red ring says "L" too

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