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Aug 13, 2014 09:59:14   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Once again, I'll mention Xume adapters. They attach the filter to the lens magnetically, so you can have it on and off in less than a second.

http://www.xumeadapters.com/


Great idea!

Now if only they didn't cost so much.

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Aug 13, 2014 10:48:04   #
RichieC Loc: Adirondacks
 
davidrb wrote:
Hello Alan Jones and welcome to UHH! You are on a roller-coaster of a ride with filters. Like all other manufactured products there are high priced and low priced options for the consumer to choose. Price is generally speaking a good measure of quality, but not always. Hoya and B+W make filters to meet the budgetary needs of most shooters. With these two companies quality is generally an indication of price. Whatever you decide please keep in mind the huge problem today with counterfeit filters. The aftermarket is a glut of knock-offs! Know your supplier! That cannot be emphasized too much. Buying from reputable suppliers is important and that is no exception for filters. Since you are learning how to use them be advised that a most handy tool for your bag is a set of filter wrenches. They are very inexpensive and worth their weight in platinum when they are needed. Adorama and B&H both have in-house brands that are easily obtained. Cross-threaded filters are pains in the anatomy, these will assist in removing them. GL
Hello Alan Jones and welcome to UHH! You are on a... (show quote)


LOL, Filters do seem to get stuck on their own- even when not cross threaded, which would damage the threads beyond fixing i imagine.... I keep a "Live Strong" rubber bracelet in my bag to use as a wrench... if anybody is ever caught wrench challenged and filter jammed ( most often between filter and adapter as I bought large size filters and use adapters for particular lenses which are smaller), and you see one of these laying around, throw one in your bag as a back-up -Don't work as well as a wrench, but can help in a pinch, even to open that stubborn jar!! FYI

Oh, B+W are among the very best, there are a few others in this "top" category but I bought the Hoya's based on the link provided earlier. Amazing the number of people who will try and talk you out of them, but I have practically never had to clean my front lens elements, only a dusting... but I have cleaned off splashed mud, fingerprints and salt spray, sand grains off of the filter- All of which would have all been on my lens! I have been able to quickly remove the filter once soiled, to get a shot with the bare lens... when it would have been impossible to clean in the field- and at best time consuming. - gives you at least two chances...

The hoya's coating does take some attention to clean, I use the Zeiss cleaning fluid and some Kodak lens tissues, or a lens pen and it takes awhile- they do stay clean for a long while as this coating resists fingerprints etc. . And I am very happy with them.

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Aug 13, 2014 11:27:25   #
Rickyb
 
B and W are worth the price. They have a low refraction index which affects sharpness and clarity of color. With a zoom that long you need all the clarity you can get.

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Aug 13, 2014 20:14:50   #
wsherman Loc: New York
 
B+W filters are more$$ but you pay for quality. Minimal if any image degradation as compared to cheaper filters. Go for it. People spend a lot of money of expensive cameras then buy lousy cheap lenses and wonder why their pictures aren't quote right. Don't be one of those people.

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Aug 13, 2014 20:23:12   #
Dan821 Loc: Traveling........
 
wsherman wrote:
B+W filters are more$$ but you pay for quality. Minimal if any image degradation as compared to cheaper filters. Go for it. People spend a lot of money of expensive cameras then buy lousy cheap lenses and wonder why their pictures aren't quote right. Don't be one of those people.


No, usually people will spend $3000-6000 on a body, and then $1000-2000 on a lens, then debate on whether to put a $49.95 filter on it, or spring for the $99.95 one!!
Sorry, but it just seems like a no-brainer to me!

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Aug 13, 2014 23:07:12   #
wdross Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado
 
I use both Hoya and B+W. HOYA makes a lot of glass and individual lens elements for a lot of lens manufacturers. B+W will not make a second rate filter. It really comes down to the thickness and features of the lens first and cost second. Since any "extra" glass will alter the lens image ever so slightly, the best glass alters it the least. But if one cannot afford the absolute best, at least buy the best you can afford. When one needs a filter like a polarizer to cut reflected light or darken skies, almost any filter is better than no filter at all.

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Aug 13, 2014 23:23:36   #
GENorkus Loc: Washington Twp, Michigan
 
There is another filter to consider and that is Cokin Pure Harmonie. I use them because they are very strong and very easy to clean and keep clean.

http://www.cokin-filters.com/pure-harmonie/

When they first came out I was looking for a filter that was strong and easy to keep clean. Cokin, with the Everclear 5 technology, is about the best.

I understand the Hoya came out with a similar model except it is bigger. The Cokin is very thin. When they said it was almost un-noticeable on the lens, they weren't kidding. (Read their website lit.)

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Aug 14, 2014 00:15:48   #
Jakebrake Loc: Broomfield, Colorado
 
Nikon_DonB wrote:
I use the Hoya's in front of all my lenses but the B+H are also rated very good too. Too close to tell, except for $$$. It's your money, spend it on what makes "you" happy and feel more secure. You can't go wrong with either.


Yep, Hoya's for me as well. I simply use them for protection and just couldn't justify the higher price for the B+W UV filters.

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Aug 14, 2014 01:44:09   #
Robeng Loc: California
 
atjones wrote:
Hi.
I'm Alan Jones and I'm new to this forum.
I just received a Nikon 28-300 and I need a UV filter.
Researching I've narrowed it down to basically Hoya Vs.B&W.
Is the B&W worth the difference in price?
Looking forward to your input.
Thanks
alan


I use B&W & Rodenstock, no complaints what so ever.

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Aug 14, 2014 02:28:44   #
Zone-System-Grandpa Loc: Springfield, Ohio
 
atjones wrote:
Hi.
I'm Alan Jones and I'm new to this forum.
I just received a Nikon 28-300 and I need a UV filter.
Researching I've narrowed it down to basically Hoya Vs.B&W.
Is the B&W worth the difference in price?
Looking forward to your input.
Thanks
alan

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Aug 14, 2014 02:32:10   #
Zone-System-Grandpa Loc: Springfield, Ohio
 
Well, if you take into consideration the amount of money that you had spent for your nice Nikon camera and the amount of money that you have spent on the nice Nikkor lens, don't, then, try to cut expenses on a filter ! B&W is the way to go.. Stick with B&W and you cannot go wrong !

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Aug 14, 2014 07:54:08   #
Jim Bob
 
Zone-System-Grandpa wrote:
When purchasing a filter for today's digital cameras, the purpose of the filter is not to enhance the image but the filter's purpose is to protect the lens while at the same time not lessening the quality of the image..

Bottom line: If one thinks that a UV filter is going to enhance the image, they are fooling themselves, but the idea is to purchase a filter that will not take away the quality of an image which the lens has captured ~ while at the same time, protecting the lens from dirt, dust, and damage from bumping into unforeseen objects...
When purchasing a filter for today's digital camer... (show quote)

OK. And your point in quoting me is exactly what?

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Aug 14, 2014 09:40:08   #
bw3 Loc: Vermillion, SD
 


I've always used B+W filters, but after reading this complete review, I'm not so sure any more.

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Aug 14, 2014 10:42:58   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
atjones wrote:
Hi.
I'm Alan Jones and I'm new to this forum.
I just received a Nikon 28-300 and I need a UV filter.
Researching I've narrowed it down to basically Hoya Vs.B&W.
Is the B&W worth the difference in price?
Looking forward to your input.
Thanks
alan


If you are using a filter for protection, Tiffen are much less expensive. I use a tiffen skylight 1-A filter. It does have a plastic mount, however.

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Aug 14, 2014 10:45:57   #
Zone-System-Grandpa Loc: Springfield, Ohio
 
Jim Bob wrote:
OK. And your point in quoting me is exactly what?


Jim Bob, please accept my most humble apology for my having seemingly engaged myself into plagiarism ! After all, who would not want to ditto words written by such an intelligent person as you ?

Actually, when I had logged onto my computer this morning, there was an UHH message awaiting me which was the message question pertaining to the filter scenario, but I did not read further to see what others had written; thusly, I had no idea that you had already responded to the question in the same fashion as did I.. Therefore, JB, if you can understand what I have just written, perhaps, you will forgive my careless oversight

Of course, you could tell yourself that when someone plagiarizes you, such is often said to be the highest form of flattery :)

Meanwhile, if you don't mind my asking, ~ ~ ~ when you were a kid, did you find it to be exciting to burn insects such as ants aimlessly scampering upon a sidewalk with direct sunlight aimed at them passing through a magnifying glass ~ and or, is it possible that you remain doing the same even today ? :lol:

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