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Aug 1, 2014 12:18:51   #
wj cody Loc: springfield illinois
 
i know what you mean, SS - it's just so HARD to remember how to manually operate a digital imaging device.

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Aug 1, 2014 12:42:48   #
jsharp Loc: Ballwin MO.
 
I miss all my old screw mount pentax lenses but not 400mm as it was about 2 foot long and the weight was about 20
lbs

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Aug 1, 2014 13:28:57   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
Well, some folks have those old lenses left over from the 60's and 70's and wonder if they are any good or not. I have several of them and do use them from time to time. One of my favorite old lenses is the Pentax Super Takumar 35mm f/3.5, for this I took three shots with this lens to demonstrate how well it performs on my DSLR. The first I set it as a point and shoot, by setting the aperture at f/11 and focusing the lens at about 20 feet I then just pointed and shot across the back of the patio to see if everything comes into acceptable focus. A second shot was of my dog to see just how well the lens performs as far as sharpness and clarity, and for the last pic I mounted the lens backwards to an old m42 bellows and took a shot of Hibiscus pollen getting close enough to see the barbs on the pollen.

These lenses are very inexpensive as compared to their modern counterparts (this lens is aroung $50 used) and perform very well in my estimation. If you don't have one you can find them on ebay or sometimes in garage sales. Just make sure which of the old lenses are easily adapted to your camera before purchasing, not all work on the different manufacturers bodies.
Well, some folks have those old lenses left over f... (show quote)


I use lenses that were made in the sixties. The work very well.
--Bob

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Aug 1, 2014 13:45:50   #
JP/Avery Loc: Australia
 
The m42 lenses work great on canon cameras due to the positioning of the mirror.the old canon fd lenses work but a focus glassed adaptor is needed and that can ruin the glass quality.but I love the asahi range easy to clean and smooth focusing.now I own the asahi 50mm 1.4 (warning radiation) asahi 600mm 1.8, asahi 135mm 2.5 series two serial number 43812 better than the newer L series lens, asahi 300mm f4, helios 55mm f2 awesome boken can't be beat.just to name the must get vintage lens.welcome it's addictive but fun :)

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Aug 1, 2014 13:51:05   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
JP/Avery wrote:
...the old canon fd lenses work but a focus glassed adaptor is needed and that can ruin the glass quality....


This has an element of truth to it, but is in fact mostly misleading. There are options available that can convert old FDn lenses to work with no loss of IQ on EOS bodies.

Normally only worth doing with the better lenses, typically costs about $100 per lens (for the conversion kit, you do the work yourself), let me know if you want to know more.

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Aug 1, 2014 13:55:35   #
SharpShooter Loc: NorCal
 
jsharp wrote:
I miss all my old screw mount pentax lenses but not 400mm as it was about 2 foot long and the weight was about 20
lbs


Hilarious !
Yes, the older we get, the bigger they were! :lol:
SS

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Aug 1, 2014 13:58:59   #
SharpShooter Loc: NorCal
 
JP/Avery wrote:


asahi 600mm 1.8,


See what I mean!!!!
This exactly what I'm talking about!! :lol:
SS

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Aug 1, 2014 13:59:14   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
JP/Avery wrote:
The m42 lenses work great on canon cameras due to the positioning of the mirror.the old canon fd lenses work but a focus glassed adaptor is needed and that can ruin the glass quality.but I love the asahi range easy to clean and smooth focusing.now I own the asahi 50mm 1.4 (warning radiation) asahi 600mm 1.8, asahi 135mm 2.5 series two serial number 43812 better than the newer L series lens, asahi 300mm f4, helios 55mm f2 awesome boken can't be beat.just to name the must get vintage lens.welcome it's addictive but fun :)
The m42 lenses work great on canon cameras due to ... (show quote)


I also have the Asahi 135 f/2.5 that you have, the rare 6 element version, very nice lens, unfortunately when I got mine it had fungus inside of it and I had to tear it down to clean it, the front element was stuck in place so I was bouncing it in my hand to try and disjar it and was successful but it landed perpendicular in my hand and it collided with the second lens and left two distinct impact scratches in it. I can't see any loss in the performance of the lens but it makes it almost worthless if I ever chose to sell it. I also have a 200mm f/5.6 preset, those are really cool lenses, it too has a mild fungus problem, I have torn it down as well and was able to get to every individual lens except the one that has the fungus... It is right behind the IRIS diaphragm with is at the very front of the lens. I still works really well, very sharp but I also have a 300 f/4 L so the 200mm does not see much use. One of my favorite old lenses is a Sears (Ricoh) 55mm f/1.4 big fast old glass, that produces wild sometimes surreal out of focus areas when shot wide open.... See the pic below, that is how it came off the camera except for a little contrast adjustment.

Sears 55mm f/1.4
Sears 55mm f/1.4...

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Aug 1, 2014 14:04:33   #
GeorgeH Loc: Jonesboro, GA
 
Those of us who shoot Pentax film and digital can enjoy our old glass without adaptors, except from 42mm to the K mount. I enjoy using my 50mm f1.2 on my K 5. Wonderful bokeh, and if you want to control depth of field.... At 1.2 its a little dreamy, but by f1.4 really sharp. A good length for portraits. Since it has the A on the diaphragm ring, as do several of my old optics, its easy to use on the K 5. IIRC the majority of Pentax glass from the 70's and on was multicoated. And of course the feel of an all metal lens is wonderful.

Other old glass: I have a 100mm f3.5 Vivitar macro lens. No autofocus, but 1 to 2 from infinity, and then on to 1 to 1 with its matched achromatic plus lens. Really sharp. I bought it for my Pentax LX, and with the A it works wonderfully well on the K 5.

BTW, it comes or came under several names, Cosina for example, and in MF and autofocus mounts for several marques. Mine I bought new for about $100. If you see one it's worth buying.

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Aug 1, 2014 14:10:18   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
GeorgeH wrote:
Those of us who shoot Pentax film and digital can enjoy our old glass without adaptors, except from 42mm to the K mount. I enjoy using my 50mm f1.2 on my K 5. Wonderful bokeh, and if you want to control depth of field.... At 1.2 its a little dreamy, but by f1.4 really sharp. A good length for portraits. Since it has the A on the diaphragm ring, as do several of my old optics, its easy to use on the K 5. IIRC the majority of Pentax glass from the 70's and on was multicoated. And of course the feel of an all metal lens is wonderful.

Other old glass: I have a 100mm f3.5 Vivitar macro lens. No autofocus, but 1 to 2 from infinity, and then on to 1 to 1 with its matched achromatic plus lens. Really sharp. I bought it for my Pentax LX, and with the A it works wonderfully well on the K 5.

BTW, it comes or came under several names, Cosina for example, and in MF and autofocus mounts for several marques. Mine I bought new for about $100. If you see one it's worth buying.
Those of us who shoot Pentax film and digital can ... (show quote)


Probably the best piece of old glass I had was a K-mount 50/1.4 it was a beautiful lens.... but I was buying and selling old lenses at the time as a hobby so I ended up selling it and holding on to the Takumar equivalent but without a doubt the K was a nicer lens.

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Aug 1, 2014 16:14:35   #
steve48 Loc: Richmond, Texas
 
I go to a lot of estate sales here in Houston, and I'm always on the lookout for good primes for my D7000. What I see out there, at house after house, is junk. Old zoom lenses, damaged lenses, screw mount lens, old film P&S cameras, you name it. Most should be sent in to the recycle bin. In 3 years of looking I have not found one decent old camera or lens at an estate sale, even for collectible purposes. If I had to have an old prime I'd buy one online or at my local camera store where it has been checked out.
My ex still has the Vivitar Series I 90mm macro lens that I used for many years with my Nikon FM. If I didn't already have the 105mm Micro-Nikkor macro I'd buy it from her.

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Aug 1, 2014 16:21:05   #
Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga
 
I've got several F1.4's.... 2 are Nikon, i AF & the other MF.... Then I have 2 Minoltas F1.4's one is a 50mm the other a 58mm, both MF... My most used manual focus is a "Lester Dine" 105mm F2.8 macro from the mid 80's, followed by a MF Nikkor 300mm F4.5 EDIF...Macro & birds are my niches...

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Aug 1, 2014 16:33:52   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
Screamin Scott wrote:
I've got several F1.4's.... 2 are Nikon, i AF & the other MF.... Then I have 2 Minoltas F1.4's one is a 50mm the other a 58mm, both MF... My most used manual focus is a "Lester Dine" 105mm F2.8 macro from the mid 80's, followed by a MF Nikkor 300mm F4.5 EDIF...Macro & birds are my niches...


I had that 58mm lens, that lens and the 1.2 can both be converted for Canons by taking the lens mount apart and milling down the spacing ring that are present in those two particular lenses, there is a guy in California that will do it for about $130... I did that with one of the ones that I had using sand paper, it was a lot of work but I was able to get it done, I may have gone a little bit to far because it I felt like infinity focus was achieved just before the focus ring hit its stop. But that is also a beautiful lens, looks great on a camera as well. I sold mine to a Canon user through Craig's list after I picked up a couple of different lenses, I waited a couple of weeks and then called him to make sure that he was happy with the lens and he reported back that he was loving it. I think that lens wide open is a bit sharper than the infamous Asahi Pentax Super Tak 50/1.4

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Aug 1, 2014 16:47:49   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
steve48 wrote:
I go to a lot of estate sales here in Houston, and I'm always on the lookout for good primes for my D7000. What I see out there, at house after house, is junk. Old zoom lenses, damaged lenses, screw mount lens, old film P&S cameras, you name it. Most should be sent in to the recycle bin. In 3 years of looking I have not found one decent old camera or lens at an estate sale, even for collectible purposes. If I had to have an old prime I'd buy one online or at my local camera store where it has been checked out.
My ex still has the Vivitar Series I 90mm macro lens that I used for many years with my Nikon FM. If I didn't already have the 105mm Micro-Nikkor macro I'd buy it from her.
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Shoot those old screw mount lenses can be pretty valuable, they are just as good as the others and they are universal, so no matter which manufacturer you purchase an M42 lens will fit the same adapter for your camera. Some of those screw mount lenses can sell on ebay for upwards of $200 and there are a few that will sell for considerably more than that. I have sold a couple of Takumar 200mm f/3.5's in the $175 to $185 range, the 50mm f/1.4's go anywhere from $75 to $100 on ebay. They are outstanding lenses, the 35mm that opened this thread is a screw mount and I love it to death.

Oh! I see that you shoot Nikon... oops. They're not going to work for you.

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Aug 1, 2014 17:19:07   #
lenben Loc: Seattle
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
Yes, I have a Sigma 50/1.4 and use it more often than I do the Takamur 50/1.4 that I also have. But, the older lenses are good too, Canon has dropped it's inexpensive 35mm lens and replaced it with a newer one that costs $600, the Sigma is closer to $800 so this little Tak is a gem in my book. The other think is that you take more time with a manual lens and have to pay closer attention to your camera and what you are doing. My adapter is telling my camera that I am shooting a 50mm at f/1.4 so the light meter is fooled when I stop down the lens and I have compensate the EV values, also when manual focusing I think that you pay a little bit more attention to what you are shooting.



Anyway, I would never go entirely manual, but it is a good way to pick up a couple of great lenses until you are ready to shell out the big bucks for that really special one that we all seem to want.
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If you have a larger Goodwill nearby you can find some bargains in old lenses. They have no idea what they are getting in the donations and price them I think by the inch in a range of $10-25 or so. You have to be savvy about mounts.

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