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Jul 14, 2014 15:58:21   #
loumazz12 Loc: Hawaii
 
Tea8 wrote:
http://optechusa.com/utility-strap-sling.html

Ok, there's the link to the site where it has pics and a video of how the strap works. The male end uni loop is supposed to connect to the right side camera strap lug. I have uploaded one of the pics they have here and if you want to see more you can click the link for the site. They also include a female uni loop when you get the strap so that you can use it with a pro battery pack or other gear. What I did since I didn't like my lens sticking out and always keeping my hand on it was to take that male uni loop and move it to the left side of my camera and then placed the female one on the right and I connect both of them to the strap at once and then the lens hangs towards the ground.
http://optechusa.com/utility-strap-sling.html br ... (show quote)


Thank you Tea8 for the additional info.

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Jul 14, 2014 16:07:11   #
Tea8 Loc: Where the wind comes sweeping down the plain.
 
ceh1024 wrote:
But then if you have a wrist strap wouldn't you have to switch it back? Can you change the strap configuration so that the male connector stays on the right and you use the female on the left?


That I am not entirely sure about because I don't use a wrist strap. For a while I left the male connector on the right and placed the female on the left and then clipped them both, but that meant that to get the camera to hang against my side the way I wanted they became crossed because of how the connectors are placed on the strap when it's made and I kept crossing it and it would take me forever to get one undone and then turn the camera around right and get it up to my eye. So for me it was just easier to do it that way. I know it may not work for everyone. I suppose that you could contact the customer service at OpTech and see if they could reverse the position of the connectors on the strap when they make it so then then you could have the female on the left and male on the right and not get them crossed and still use a wrist strap. Or take the strap apart yourself and switch them and then sew it back together. All you'd really need was the time to unstitch one end of the strap and reverse them and then a good sewing machine that could go back through the fabric and sew it back up good. (I don't have access to that so I'm just gonna go with mine the way it is.)

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Jul 14, 2014 16:07:36   #
Tea8 Loc: Where the wind comes sweeping down the plain.
 
loumazz12 wrote:
Thank you Tea8 for the additional info.


You're welcome lou

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Jul 14, 2014 16:29:18   #
orriebarber Loc: Stratford CT.
 
I use a Speed Carry with a 7d and 16- 300mm and 150 -600mm and it works great.

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Jul 14, 2014 16:37:16   #
ocpd44 Loc: The Real OC
 
I'm using the Black Rapid. I did a little research and liked the way it carries the camera. The issue with the lug use can be fixed by using their connector that works with the arcaswiss heads. A bit pricey but convenient. They also have an optional tether system for added safety.

I don't know if it is the best but I like it so far.

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Jul 14, 2014 19:37:26   #
Robotfighter Loc: Sacramento, CA
 
I employ two different systems and sometimes use them together, depending on how many lens I need to use quickly. I've found the SLR sling system to be very comfortable and even when I have a 1D Mk4 with a 70-200 f2.8 it stays solidly by my side. I also use the Spyder holster which is extremely strong. Together I can carry two pro cameras and be able to rock any lens without banging them together. But for a sling system the SLR is awesome and has a good price point. It comes in two styles. One lets the camera hang from the sling to a screw mount on the camera shoe. When you pull the camera up it rotates the sling around your body. The other sling has a seperate slider that when attached to your camera, slides up the sling seperately. It's somewhat faster bringing up your camera, but I think it's also a bit more floppy on your side and does bring in another fail point. Good luck in your search!

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Jul 14, 2014 21:12:17   #
Hunakai
 
Check out fastfire slings or heavy leather in NYC. All USA made

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Jul 14, 2014 21:29:14   #
ocpd44 Loc: The Real OC
 
Hunakai wrote:
Check out fastfire slings or heavy leather in NYC. All USA made


Well, it's cheaper than the BR but I don't see a real advantage. I haven't used my BR that much, since I just got it, but it is very comfortable and I can carry the small items in the pad. I think I wil be getting the optional tether for it, though. I like the idea of the extra security.

It's too bad we can't try them all out before we buy them.

Regards,

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Jul 14, 2014 21:32:57   #
Mickey Jetpur Loc: California
 
ceh1024 wrote:
Here again is another episode of the continuing debate on whether to utilize a system connecting to the tripod mount or the standard camera connection points. Comments welcome.

When I received my T3i I researched quite a bit on the connect mechanism I wanted to employ. I knew that I didn’t want to wear a neck strap (been there done that.) I started to research slings as I thought them the best option (and still do) for what I wanted. I narrowed my search to two Black Rapid and Carry Speed.

My initial trepidation maybe even paranoia at having the only connection a single point on what controversially is a potential point of failure or damage. This later was slowly mitigated with use to the point where I was only slightly concerned but the fear never totally disappeared.

In my Opinion Carry speed blew Black Rapid away for several reasons:
1. I loved the swivel ball connector that attached to the Tripod socket far better than the snap shackle provided by BR.
2. The clips they used were incredible in that they had an additional locking point that I had never seen on a connector of the types used with webbing.

Now I have upgraded to the Canon 70D. The camera is noticeably heavier which again started my thoughts about the Tripod mount. The second motivation to look at changes was BR’s ability to legally shut down Carry Speed’s business with a patent violation. How that could happen with other companies employing the same philosophies is beyond me. But that is another issue.

I again looked at Black Rapid and their single point of connection tripod mount. There are many things liked about it. Things like style and accessories were very attractive. Pricing was outrageous.

I also started looking at Optech. During a trip there were a few instances where I carried my small shoulder camera holster and was shooting from it. I purchased a wrist strap that I really liked on the fly. Turns out it was made by Optech.

While reading the forum I read more about Optech and started researching the system. I was impressed with many of the features and interconnectivity options. Switching from my wrist strap to a sling would be simplicity itself.

However, here are my concerns.

Attaching to the standard strap mounts on the camera appears to cause the camera to hang in a way that allows the lens to fall at a right angle to the body rather than lying across the hip. This seems to be a little inconvenient and a possibly dangerous position. It also would seem to also allow more swing while walking or hiking.

The connectors are the same that everyone uses but I really would miss the safety locking connectors (3 point) used by Carry Speed. I know that Optech offers Velcro reinforcement for those that are nervous but should they have to? But maybe I am concerned for no reason. It would be great to have a source for the connectors used by Carry Speed.

At any rate these are my current thoughts hopefully I’ll resolve these issues in the next few weeks and try a solution.
Here again is another episode of the continuing de... (show quote)


Check out Peak Design. They have one called "Leash" and "Slide" which will be coming soon. Also a connector plate to your sling and tripod.

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Jul 14, 2014 21:35:01   #
Boone Loc: Groundhog Town USA
 
Optech USA. Ditto!! :thumbup:

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Jul 15, 2014 00:18:13   #
MrT Loc: Gilbert, AZ
 
I have been using the Carry Speed for about a year and a half and overall am pleased. I have never used a neck strap thought they were very uncomfortable and inconvenient. Used a hand strap for 20 years now with kids, the photography not always the priority. Looked at BR and was very impressed except for how do you put it on a tripod which I used to use +/- 70% of the time. Found the carry speed and am now trying to find a new Arca compatible ball head to complete the convenience project. The carry speed moves around a little more on my shoulder than maybe the BR. I would love the underarm strap. But I am happy with it on a D7000 MB-D11 battery pack and 70 to 300 VRII I have had no issues what so ever of it coming loose or being concerned about it. I do not use it with the 400 5.6 because it is almost always on the tripod. My two cents. Would like to cross the carry speed with a post/clip thingy that could mount to the lugs on the body. That would be the best of both worlds. Anybody out there a machinist?

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Jul 15, 2014 02:20:38   #
macsta Loc: the winterless north of nz
 
Peak Design, they have a belt clip system that stops your gear swinging all over the place, your normal strap provides extra support over your shoulder if thats a concern.
The clip also fits any arca type tripod mounting and is very fast release.
I carry my d610 with a 70-300mm on a bike all over the place with this with absolutely no hastles.
It's brilliant, check it out.

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Jul 15, 2014 03:02:11   #
BHC Loc: Strawberry Valley, JF, USA
 
ceh1024 wrote:
Interesting! I have been looking at doing something similar as your original. I saw a picture somewhere where someone did that ( maybe you). I still have a Mini Walker (Heavy duty Sewing Machine) left over from my boating days where I used to do canvas, leather and sails. If I need to do any custom harnesses of any type that would be able to handle it.

The sewing machine will negate having to use tri-glides configured to lock the strap as I did (having to cut one locking loop). Yours should be more compact and professional looking than mine. If I may make a suggestion, I think I would use OpTech Utility Loops in lieu of Adapt-Its to hang the camera. While the Adapt-Its are great for minimizing swinging and twisting, the Utility Loops will allow the strap to hang free from the camera itself, minimizing scratching and scuffing. Both can be seen at:

http://optechusa.com/system-connectors.html

Good luck and please keep us posted on your progress!

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Jul 15, 2014 07:56:50   #
ceh1024 Loc: Lutz, FL
 
So many good straps with their own unique pros and cons.

They all fall into 1 of two groups tripod or lug mounted.

For each group it seems to boil down to style, comfort, connectors and accessories. Easy access to the camera and fluid motion from rest position to shooting is one of the main criteria. Security may be an issue when traveling to more high risk locations (ex. don't want someone to UN-clip and yank a strap off or cut it grab and run.)

Basically there are a finite number of connection points and balance points based on those connectors and the combination thereof. All those are based upon a particular camera and lens and the extension of a particular lens.

Currently I am going through an interesting exercise with camera and string looking at those mounting and balance points.

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Jul 26, 2014 10:15:29   #
ceh1024 Loc: Lutz, FL
 
Status Update

Well I think that I have had a large amount of success. After review an incredible amount of straps, connectors, concepts and other various components I settled an a basic concept that I wound up using. This whole thing wound up being far less than I initially envisioned.

During this whole process I realized how little truly unique possibilities there were for building strap, why manufacturers did what they did and why we are forced to be limited to certain approaches. As a side I think I have a theory as to why more and more people seem to be gravitating to the tripod connect and it is the fault of the camera manufacturers themselves.

What I have currently is a basic Black Rapid RS-7 Curve Strap. I ordered with it a Joey(extra storage pouch) and a Bart(underarm stabilizer.) Additionally I ordered an extra swivel curve carabiner.

From Strapworks I ordered 1/2in sublimated polyester webbing 3 bar plastic slide adjusters, buckles, d-rings and keepers.

After several experiments I eventually eliminated the buckles as being unnecessary and adding more bulk than I liked. I settled on a 2 d-ring straps looped through the camera lugs and secured with adjusters and keepers. I left the adjust tails long as currently I am still experimenting with effects of different lengths. This approach seems to work fairly well. For the most part I am very satisfied with it but am still looking at some possible refinement.

The extra Swivel Carabiner was added by removing the stitching on the tail slider of the BR strap and then restitching it afterwards.

This can be used in a multiple number of was. Using both carabiners the straps fall away nicely when the camera is lifted to eye level. It can also be used with only one of the carabiners attached.

It stays in place for climbing with the forward cam lock all the way down. However I am looking at experimenting with additional security of having a utility carabiner attached to my belt for a time when and if I do not want any movement at all while roughing around.

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