The Nikon D4s (Page 3): Here are some representative images... 1DX: http://www.photoextract.com/photo/489236.html D4s:...

DesertRat71 Loc: Arizona

lukan wrote:

^^^ it's interesting until you see actual images from all three. Check some shots made by all three, on line, and YOU decide what's the most capable. :D

Here are some representative images...

1DX: http://www.photoextract.com/photo/489236.html

D4s: http://photographylife.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/Nikon-D4s-Sample-Image-7-1024x681.jpg

D7100: http://www.photoextract.com/photo/513205.html

As to the last picture, it was taken with the same camera and lens that captured this last weekend:
http://outrider.darrows.org/desertscenes/h924fce7#h924fce7

I'm familiar with the photographer :-).

I do get your point, however. Personally, I wouldn't mind a move to an FX format but the price difference isn't all that easy to justify considering the D7100's capabilities. While I would (and am) considering a move to an 810, the jump to the D4s is currently cost prohibitive.

lukan Loc: Chicago, IL

DesertRat71 wrote:

Here are some representative images... br br 1DX:... (show quote)

I would most likely opt for a D810 if I shot with Nikon gear, and didn't need the overall speed of the D4S. The resolution is excellent, and the higher frame-rate (than the D800) can do some action. Its low light performance is actually very good (but not like the D4S). For an all-arounder, that would be the one to get and get to know well. Then take the savings and buy some great Nikon glass.
:thumbup:

amehta Loc: Boston

lukan wrote:

I would most likely opt for a D810 if I shot with Nikon gear, and didn't need the overall speed of the D4S. The resolution is excellent, and the higher frame-rate (than the D800) can do some action. Its low light performance is actually very good (but not like the D4S). For an all-arounder, that would be the one to get and get to know well. Then take the savings and buy some great Nikon glass.
:thumbup:

The frame rate difference is insignificant (I would be interested in any evidence to the contrary). If the D810 "can do some action", so can the D800.

onefofun Loc: Elk Grove CA

As for the three pictures....all taken were with different lighting conditions and moving parts. To claim one is better than the other... the comparison should be with the same exact photo and conditions. The last picture with the bull looks the worst of the group but had different lighting, dust in the air and lots of movement. Were any of these photos taken with a tripod?

DesertRat71 Loc: Arizona

onefofun wrote:

As for the three pictures....all taken were with different lighting conditions and moving parts. To claim one is better than the other... the comparison should be with the same exact photo and conditions. The last picture with the bull looks the worst of the group but had different lighting, dust in the air and lots of movement. Were any of these photos taken with a tripod?

Well, that's real life. If we're talking "all else being equal" you get back to the sterile metric comparison on the Web site that started this particular sub-thread.

Regarding your tripod question I can only speak to the bull riding and the turkey vulture pictures. The former was taken from the general bleacher section of the rodeo and the latter from the driver side of my vehicle out the passenger window while the vehicle was slowly moving so as not to spook the bird. Neither condition was conducive to use of a tripod.

DaveHam Loc: Reading UK

lukan wrote:

Autofocus is absolutely NOT better on the D4S! Th... (show quote)

On the AF I can only use experience; for example we have one recurring situation shooting fast action against a background of a vertical line of narrow poles with 600mm lenses. With the 1DX AF does nothing but seek, the D4 does some seeking but does work, the D4S does not miss a shot.

I should add that we made the decision to upgrade our Nikon lenses over the past year so they are the latest models, the Canon lenses are a couple of years older.

JJPhoto Loc: Tomah Wi

You like apples,,,, BS

You like Apples

Marionsho Loc: Kansas

JJPhoto wrote:

You like apples,,,, BS

:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

MikeMck Loc: Southern Maryland on the Bay

They only count beans!!

I'm a retired bean counter and I shoot!. lol

lukan Loc: Chicago, IL

amehta wrote:

The frame rate difference is insignificant (I would be interested in any evidence to the contrary). If the D810 "can do some action", so can the D800.

I meant this as new model vs new model: D810 vs D4S, not D800 vs D4. For that matter, the D800 "can do some action" too... and 36mp RAW at 4 fps with autofocus is still a lot better than 2 fps film motordrive with no autofocus! Please make no mistake about the fact that I really like the D800, no ifs ands or buts. I personally just prefer a little faster EVERYTHING, now that I'm very spoiled! :D

amehta Loc: Boston

lukan wrote:

I meant this as new model vs new model: D810 vs D4S, not D800 vs D4. For that matter, the D800 "can do some action" too... and 36mp RAW at 4 fps with autofocus is still a lot better than 2 fps film motordrive with no autofocus! Please make no mistake about the fact that I really like the D800, no ifs ands or buts. I personally just prefer a little faster EVERYTHING, now that I'm very spoiled! :D

Yes, you are spoiled! :lol:

DesertRat71 Loc: Arizona

JJ: Nice picture. I see you're wearing a wedding ring...what was your concession for the camera? :-D

JJPhoto Loc: Tomah Wi

DesertRat71 wrote:

JJ: Nice picture. I see you're wearing a wedding ring...what was your concession for the camera? :-D

Good eye buddy ,,
You know the business 😉

SharpShooter Loc: NorCal

JJPhoto wrote:

You like apples,,,, BS

JJ, congrats.
Hey, I'M JUST GONNA WHISPER THIS, SO NO ONE ELSE CAN HEAR IT!!
But, if you had used a canon 50mm 1.2 lens on your pic, that big'ol door behind you would be GONE!! :lol: :lol:
Again, congrats! ;-)
SS

JJPhoto Loc: Tomah Wi

SharpShooter wrote:

JJ, congrats.
Hey, I'M JUST GONNA WHISPER THIS, SO NO ONE ELSE CAN HEAR IT!!
But, if you had used a canon 50mm 1.2 lens on your pic, that big'ol door behind you would be GONE!! :lol: :lol:
Again, congrats! ;-)
SS

Are you High or just yelling with all capts ?