wlgoode Loc: Globe, AZ

I'm not whining, there is history between us that this creep won't admit to.

Jackinthebox Loc: travel the world

A lover's quarrel. Even more disgusting. Please go away. Hit UNWATCH.

wlgoode Loc: Globe, AZ

http://www.litigationandtrial.com/2010/09/articles/series/special-comment/ebay-v-newmark-al-franken-was-right-corporations-are-legally-required-to-maximize-profits/

It is not a statute but it is a common law. Contractual agreements between shareholders and Officers require it unless it is non-profit. There are "Mutual" insurance companies where the insured become shareholders upon being insured.

Under new health insurance laws, companies must spend at least 80% on patient care because of such monstrously out-sized profits in recent years. The concept that insurance companies don't make a profit is laughable.

lenben Loc: Seattle

Where have you been hiding? Health insurance companies make a huge profit, pay their execs 7 -8 figure salaries and are guaranteed a profit by their relationship with state insurance commissioners. It is guaranteed.

PrairieSeasons Loc: Red River of the North

This response was regarding those companies that provide health insurance to their employees, not the health insurance companies. Read the context.

Croce Loc: Earth

OK Swede, thanks for your concern but unlike you, if I don,t sit down I will not pee down my leg.

Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.

It is good that you choose to respect the court even though you disagree with the decision but in my opinion you are wrong in your assessment. If you carefully read the decision the women working at Hobby Lobby have lost nothing. The decision affirms that under HHS regulation those women are deserving of receiving all 20 methods of birth control approved by the FDA, the ruling also states that under the provisions set forth in RFRA that HHS did not take the least restrictive path to implementing that mandate as the first amendment rights of these two families are concerned. The court also did address your concern when it recognized the government's interest in such laws and policies not only about birth control but about blood transfusions as well. Just because the court directed HHS to accommodate these families, as it has the catholic church and little sisters does not in any fashion mean that they have ruled against the provision of all forms of approved birth control or blood transfusions or any other procedure, to the contrary they have directed HHS that these drugs be provided through a different vehicle just as they were when consideration was given to the other religious organizations I have already discussed...

The reaction by the left on this issue is much to do about nothing. Most people reacting to this issue have little knowledge of the actual ruling itself and the press certainly is doing a poor job of reporting on the actual issue itself, in many outlets they are still calling this a restriction on women's reproductive rights when in fact it is no such thing.

The bigger issue in this case that I think is bothering liberals although for many it may be on a subconscious level is that the court ruled that simply entering into a for profit business does not cause one to lose his individual rights. I think that this is the most important part of the decision and was correctly arrived at. It is what enabled the decision in the first place.

James Shaw

Thank you for your information. That straightens out my thinking a bit.

So, Hobby Lobby supports prevention but not abortion. Do they consider a zygote (fertilized ovum) that has not implanted on the uterine wall a living human being? If so, then any drug that prevents attachment of a zygote to the uterine wall would also be considered an abortifacient by Hobby Lobby?

Thanks again.

James Shaw

Thanks Mike for the information. BAmaTexan cleared it up for me, too.

BamaTexan wrote:
Hobby Lobby insurance for employees covers 16 types of birth control pills, it just doesn't cover abortion inducing pills or devices.

Hoot72 Loc: Lexington, KY

You're right. I didn't mean to include Viagra in that response.

ishootthings Loc: Western shore of Lake Michigan

I am in total agreement! Keep Obamacare mandates out of the privately owned companies that carry this country (or used to!).

I am a loyal Hobby Lobby customer and I applaud their Christian values!

James Shaw

Very well stated, but it is my understanding that it is not about birth control by various other methods, but about abortion by any method, whatever the definition of abortion may be, and when a biological entity is considered living?

wlgoode Loc: Globe, AZ

Amazing how some believe that insurance companies are there for the common good when nothing could be less true. Are those companies registered non-profits?

marblclear Loc: Sacramento CA

Actually more are non profit then aren't.

Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.

This is a thread about the Hobby Lobby court decision and that is what I was discussing, I don't understand the relevance of your question to what I had been discussing with Bazbo