Why Lightroom? (Page 3): ACR in Photoshop and Lightroom are identical (with one caveat), and the histogram can be adjusted in both, this feature is also in LR4. The caveat: A new...

Searcher Loc: Kent, England

ACR in Photoshop and Lightroom are identical (with one caveat), and the histogram can be adjusted in both, this feature is also in LR4.

The caveat: A new feature in ACR (Photoshop CC 2014) is that there is a new brush for modifying the graduated filter and the radial filter.

This new brush is at present missing from LR 5.5, and I expect it will be fixed and present in LR5.6

mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey

Rongnongno wrote:

Ok, fine, I cannot since I have no access to the stand alone LR anymore.

If you have the STAND ALONE LR 5 - not the LR 5 CC - try playing with the histogram to adjust an image luminosity.

If THIS is not specific enough for you, forget it.

REMEMBER stand alone version. The LR 5 CC defaults to PS CC ACR.

There are easily usable adjustment sliders for luminosity by individual color. I rarely adjust the the histogram directly anyway. I certainly wouldn't call that severely crippled. LR is just implemented slightly differently than ACR in PS.

mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey

Rongnongno wrote:

I have to have them side by side and I have LR 5 CC...

Possibly using a printscreen you can spot differences.

1) Ability to adjust the image using the histogram
2) Tabs were missing
3) Sliders were not all presents

1) Adjustments are available in the histogram although I rarely use the histogram to make them.
2) the functionality is all there, the design and layout is just a bit different. Frankly I prefer the layout in Lightroom.
3) Which specific sliders do you think are missing?

via the lens Loc: Northern California, near Yosemite NP

rpavich wrote:

Interesting! I never knew that.

LR is an amazingly robust software program and can do most of the work that is needed on any photo. If a photo has special needs, then you can edit the photo in PS, OnOne Perfect 8, Topza, or Nik software right from LR. A copy is created from within LR, you edit the photo, save it and it returns to sit next to the original photo in LR. This edit can be saved in various formats. You do not need to save photos from within LR as it saves all changes to the catalog, I often equate it to frosting on a cake. From within LR you can open/close files, rearrange photos, create collections, all to manage the files that reside in whatever place you keep them on your computer. A wonderful tool for photography. With any luck, the LR tools section will show up with this to show you the clone/heal tool, the gradient tool, the radial too, the brush tool, and the cropping too.

Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!

Forget LR5 , just download the free trial of OnOnes Perfect Photo Suite 8 or Paintshop Pro X6. I found them both more pleasant to use and navigate. :)

via the lens Loc: Northern California, near Yosemite NP

Rongnongno wrote:

Did you try adjusting with the histogram?

ACR offers 5 ranges to drag left and right to adjust the luminosity from there.

Are you referring to the luminosity of a specific color in the photograph? LR lets you control that with the HSL/Color panel, I use it often to darken blue skies and kick back a color that I do not want to be foremost in the photo. See attached.

via the lens Loc: Northern California, near Yosemite NP

You're right, these are great programs and I use them often. LR, however, gives you the ability to do different things and, in some cases, in an easier fashion. Additionally, LR allows you to organize and find your photos quickly and easily if they were first organized, i.e., prior to being linked to LR. All the programs are really good, it just depends upon what your goal is.

randomeyes Loc: wilds of b.c. canada

Racmanaz wrote:

Forget LR5 , just download the free trial of OnOnes Perfect Photo Suite 8 or Paintshop Pro X6. I found them both more pleasant to use and navigate. :)

But, but your LR5 is still in the box unopened, how would you know??

redpepper Loc: Central NY

I have the newest version of LR and PSE 11. I honestly use LR for 98% of my workflow. I batch edit in a pinch and the cloning function in spot removal negates the need for me to bring images into PSE.

Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)

GreenReaper wrote:

I've been lurking in the background(somewhat)reading various posts and one "theme" I keep reading about is Lightroom. I've been using Photoshop since version 3.0. I stopped at PS 7 and currently use PSE 6 (I know, way behind). So, why do I need or why should I change to Lightroom? Just looking for opinions(and maybe stir the pot a little :)) Keep smiling.

This question has been asked 1000s of times and it has been extremely well covered (1000s of times as well).

Start here:

http://tv.adobe.com/watch/going-from-photoshop-elements-to-lightroom/why-use-lightroom/

and just google your question "why lightroom"

It is not just an image processor. It organizes your photographic life. And if you are not shooting raw, it will help you start in the least painless way possible.

mborn Loc: Massachusetts

Rongnongno wrote:

If you have LR stand alone you have a seriously crippled ACR.

LR version of ACR is easier to use the PS version at least for me otherwise they are identical

Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)

Rongnongno wrote:

Ok, fine, I cannot since I have no access to the stand alone LR anymore.

If you have the STAND ALONE LR 5 - not the LR 5 CC - try playing with the histogram to adjust an image luminosity.

If THIS is not specific enough for you, forget it.

REMEMBER stand alone version. The LR 5 CC defaults to PS CC ACR.

As usual, your posts are confused full of wrong information, and generally do not contribute anything positive to the discussion. You LR standalone is the same as LR delivered through the cloud. You do get LR mobile if you subscribe though.

mborn Loc: Massachusetts

Rongnongno wrote:

Ok, fine, I cannot since I have no access to the stand alone LR anymore.

If you have the STAND ALONE LR 5 - not the LR 5 CC - try playing with the histogram to adjust an image luminosity.

If THIS is not specific enough for you, forget it.

REMEMBER stand alone version. The LR 5 CC defaults to PS CC ACR.

I have stand alone LR and the histogram works

Nikonhermit Loc: In This Place

Gene51 wrote:

As usual, your posts are confused full of wrong information, and generally do not contribute anything positive to the discussion. You LR standalone is the same as LR delivered through the cloud. You do get LR mobile if you subscribe though.

Gene51, Thank you for having the courage to state the matter succinctly. You have put into words what I have felt for a long time.

Festus Loc: North Dakota

GreenReaper wrote:

I've been lurking in the background(somewhat)reading various posts and one "theme" I keep reading about is Lightroom. I've been using Photoshop since version 3.0. I stopped at PS 7 and currently use PSE 6 (I know, way behind). So, why do I need or why should I change to Lightroom? Just looking for opinions(and maybe stir the pot a little :)) Keep smiling.

What camera/s do you use? At some point in time you may purchase a camera that PSE 6 won't recognize. At which time you will need to update to a newer software.