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Jun 15, 2014 21:41:06   #
phcaan Loc: Willow Springs, MO
 
rick wrote:
Oh, see, you had me thinking until I got to the Obama part and then I realized you are another of those bat shit crazy people. I am not a troll. I am just someone who has recognized there are some ignorant, racist, misguided people who might benefit from a dose of reality. You are living in a delusional world, on the edge of insanity, and if I can save one of you I have done some good.

Why should that bother you? You post this crazy, insane conspiracy crap and you question why I post? Come back to reality.
Oh, see, you had me thinking until I got to the Ob... (show quote)

I don't post exclusively to belittle others, you do. What ever happened to all the PC and awareness you preach to others, oh I forgot, that only applies to those you preach at.

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Jun 15, 2014 22:04:45   #
rick Loc: Cape Cod, MA
 
phcaan wrote:
I don't post exclusively to belittle others, you do. What ever happened to all the PC and awareness you preach to others, oh I forgot, that only applies to those you preach at.


Your ideas are dangerous, ignorant, wrong, and insane. Don't tug at my heart strings. You want to have a crazy open discussion on a public forum be prepared to hear from the other side. Not all here are going to agree with your crazy ideas. Don't let it bother you so much. I have reconciled myself to the fact that there are plenty of crazies who don't agree with me.

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Jun 15, 2014 22:09:19   #
phcaan Loc: Willow Springs, MO
 
rick wrote:
Your ideas are dangerous, ignorant, wrong, and insane. Don't tug at my heart strings. You want to have a crazy open discussion on a public forum be prepared to hear from the other side. Not all here are going to agree with your crazy ideas. Don't let it bother you so much. I have reconciled myself to the fact that there are plenty of crazies who don't agree with me.

Thank you. I rest my case.

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Jun 15, 2014 22:28:29   #
larrypayne Loc: Texas Hill Country
 
Croce wrote:
I don't really know the answers to your questions other than being able to apply inadequate layman logic. In the 1975 fire were the floors subjected to a 9700 gallon fuel spill to intensify the fire as was the N Tower on 911? The S Tower was hit at 540 mph with a dump of 9200 gallons of fuel. Seems like a little more than I would pour on charcoal in the backyard, but. The other thing which bothers me is the one sided certainty of the conspircacy theorists which is solely based on video likeness of the collapse as appearing like a vegas hotel demo. Larry, I do not have the answer nor sufficient knowledge to come to any conclusion, however if the theory is based on only physical appearance from a video of the collapse, I feel I certainly have enough knowledge to support doubt. If anyone can come forward with facts showing that the buildings were rigged with explosives prior to the collapse I would certainly give it due weight. What explosive, where were they placed, how much of it, when was it placed, how were they able to accomplish the plant without discovery, how were they detonated, by whom? A hell of a lot more than conjecture is needed to support the theory. I doubt anyone other than closed minded naive, blind loyalists would reject out of hand, the presentation of such proof. Certainly I would not reject offered proof, I doubt anyone on this forum would but theories which amount to bullshit subject to nothing but so called "proof" offered by the likes of our local conspiracy theorists? I think not.
I don't really know the answers to your questions ... (show quote)


The videos of the planes hitting the towers clearly show that most of the fuel burned up in the air outside the towers. Jet fuel burns at a maximum temperature of about 600 degrees F in open air. It burns at lower temperatures in enclosed spaces where oxygen is quickly used up. That means the jet fuel fires could not weaken steel.

And if the top section of a steel-framed skyscraper could collapse because of fire, it would most certainly topple sideways off the undamaged lower floors, rather than crushing them at near free fall speed.





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Jun 15, 2014 22:48:07   #
rick Loc: Cape Cod, MA
 
larrypayne wrote:
The videos of the planes hitting the towers clearly show that most of the fuel burned up in the air outside the towers. Jet fuel burns at a maximum temperature of about 600 degrees F in open air. It burns at lower temperatures in enclosed spaces where oxygen is quickly used up. That means the jet fuel fires could not weaken steel.

And if the top section of a steel-framed skyscraper could collapse because of fire, it would most certainly topple sideways off the undamaged lower floors, rather than crushing them at near free fall speed.
The videos of the planes hitting the towers clearl... (show quote)


So tell us again who perpetrated this dastardly scheme? Please cut to the chase and name names of people or organizations who you suggest are responsible? I am sure that you have alluded or maybe named previously, but please humor and remind me. Please don't dance around the subject, just keep it plain and simple for those of us not educated to the extent you experts are. I have an open mind and am listening.

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Jun 15, 2014 22:53:25   #
TrainNut Loc: Ridin' the rails
 
rick wrote:
So tell us again who perpetrated this dastardly scheme? Please cut to the chase and name names of people or organizations who you suggest are responsible? I am sure that you have alluded or maybe named previously, but please humor and remind me. Please don't dance around the subject, just keep it plain and simple for those of us not educated to the extent you experts are. I have an open mind and am listening.


. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .This is how hot the steel was.



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Jun 15, 2014 23:06:53   #
rick Loc: Cape Cod, MA
 
TrainNut wrote:
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .This is how hot the steel was.


Not the question I asked. Are you afraid to answer, or do you not know the answer because ther is no answer?

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Jun 15, 2014 23:19:18   #
gmcase Loc: Galt's Gulch
 
Croce wrote:
I am just not qualified to offer more to solve this mystery however I do nelieve I am intelligent enough to examine submitted evidence and draw at least some sort of logical half assed conclusion based on something if that something were offered. I am at a loss to change my skepticism based on the absolutely non conclusive evidence offered or the building 7 story, which in my opinion is just that, a story. Again, bullshit subject to nothing. Can anyone offer something??????????????


I am not qualified to determine the correct answer either but the free fall speed of the collapse just smells to me.

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Jun 15, 2014 23:23:34   #
larrypayne Loc: Texas Hill Country
 
rick wrote:
So tell us again who perpetrated this dastardly scheme? Please cut to the chase and name names of people or organizations who you suggest are responsible? I am sure that you have alluded or maybe named previously, but please humor and remind me. Please don't dance around the subject, just keep it plain and simple for those of us not educated to the extent you experts are. I have an open mind and am listening.


It's not up to me to say who did it. I have my suspicions but it would take an international court of law to determine all the participants in the false flag operation. 9/11 was International in scope with intelligence agencies of at least three U.S. allies involved in the planning and execution of the attacks.

General Wesley Clark mentions some of those who benefited from the attacks: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TY2DKzastu8

The important thing is for the world to know the truth that it was not Muslims who attacked us on 9/11.

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Jun 15, 2014 23:32:53   #
phcaan Loc: Willow Springs, MO
 
rick wrote:
So tell us again who perpetrated this dastardly scheme? Please cut to the chase and name names of people or organizations who you suggest are responsible? I am sure that you have alluded or maybe named previously, but please humor and remind me. Please don't dance around the subject, just keep it plain and simple for those of us not educated to the extent you experts are. I have an open mind and am listening.


rick wrote:
Your ideas are dangerous, ignorant, wrong, and insane. Don't tug at my heart strings. You want to have a crazy open discussion on a public forum be prepared to hear from the other side. Not all here are going to agree with your crazy ideas. Don't let it bother you so much. I have reconciled myself to the fact that there are plenty of crazies who don't agree with me.

"I have an open mind and am listening"
Now that is funny, open mind that is the joke of the day

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Jun 15, 2014 23:45:24   #
rick Loc: Cape Cod, MA
 
phcaan wrote:
rick wrote:
Your ideas are dangerous, ignorant, wrong, and insane. Don't tug at my heart strings. You want to have a crazy open discussion on a public forum be prepared to hear from the other side. Not all here are going to agree with your crazy ideas. Don't let it bother you so much. I have reconciled myself to the fact that there are plenty of crazies who don't agree with me.

"I have an open mind and am listening"
Now that is funny, open mind that is the joke of the day


No, it really is open. If you had anything substantive to provide I would be more than happy, in fact eager, to listen. Your response is a positive indicator that you have nothing. I really do not know what your motivation is but you have nothing.

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Jun 15, 2014 23:46:12   #
rick Loc: Cape Cod, MA
 
larrypayne wrote:
It's not up to me to say who did it. I have my suspicions but it would take an international court of law to determine all the participants in the false flag operation. 9/11 was International in scope with intelligence agencies of at least three U.S. allies involved in the planning and execution of the attacks.

General Wesley Clark mentions some of those who benefited from the attacks: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TY2DKzastu8

The important thing is for the world to know the truth that it was not Muslims who attacked us on 9/11.
It's not up to me to say who did it. I have my sus... (show quote)


Pussy.

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Jun 15, 2014 23:50:28   #
rick Loc: Cape Cod, MA
 
gmcase wrote:
I am not qualified to determine the correct answer either but the free fall speed of the collapse just smells to me.


Another pussy. You make strong allegations with no substance and plenty of inuendos. Make some real accusations. I accuse you of being a pussy, a liar, ignorant, a fraud. I could go on but you get the idea. Instead o fluff give us thereal answers.

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Jun 15, 2014 23:52:45   #
gmcase Loc: Galt's Gulch
 
rick wrote:
Another pussy. You make strong allegations with no substance and plenty of inuendos. Make some real accusations. I accuse you of being a pussy, a liar, ignorant, a fraud. I could go on but you get the idea. Instead o fluff give us thereal answers.


I clearly stated I am not qualified to give detailed answers but it is not up to me. It is up to the purveyors of the story to provide the details that are believable. The free fall speed is specious at best. Try thinking. It may be painful at first but you'll survive.

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Jun 15, 2014 23:55:48   #
rick Loc: Cape Cod, MA
 
larrypayne wrote:
It's not up to me to say who did it. I have my suspicions but it would take an international court of law to determine all the participants in the false flag operation. 9/11 was International in scope with intelligence agencies of at least three U.S. allies involved in the planning and execution of the attacks.

General Wesley Clark mentions some of those who benefited from the attacks: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TY2DKzastu8

The important thing is for the world to know the truth that it was not Muslims who attacked us on 9/11.
It's not up to me to say who did it. I have my sus... (show quote)


You wave that American flag on your avatar as thogh you are some sort of patriot! Balogna you phoney. Someobe who has spent his recent poor pathetic life building this sham of an argument ( believes he ) knows who did this. Don' t bs us and tell us who you believe did thiss you pussy.

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