dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma

he spent way too many years on the sauce... or as they say. been pickled.

gmcase Loc: Galt's Gulch

Why do you hang around cesspools fishing?

I do discriminate against certain things and I admit it freely. For example, I am a culturist, one who discriminates against certain cultures. My discrimination is based on whether a culture is beneficial, moral and improves the subscriber's lives therefore on facts not blind discrimination. Two shining examples of cultures gone bad, and for the most part destructive to those who imbibe, are the cannibal culture and modern black culture in America. Another is some of the cultures associated with towels on their heads. Obviously not all within those cultures are violent and evil but many are and their culture breeds destruction. The evidence is indisputable. If you want to criticize me do so for what I clearly state and not your misguided accusations.

Croce Loc: Earth

Croce Loc: Earth

Well stated comment on a prudently thought out position Mr. Case. :thumbup:

larrypayne Loc: Texas Hill Country

The North Tower caught fire on the 11th floor in 1975 and the fire spread to the 17th floor. It burned for three hours--three times longer than the South Tower burned and twice as long as the North Tower burned. Firemen fighting the fire said it was "like fighting a blowtorch." When the fire was extinguished, there was no structural damage to the steel and none of it needed to be replaced. http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/wtc_1975_fire.html

So, Croce, if that longer burning fire that was as hot or hotter than the 9/11 fires did not weaken the steel, why did the buildings fall at near free fall speed on 9/11? There were over 70 (South Tower) and over 90 (North Tower) undamaged floors underneath where the planes hit.

These floors had held up the weight of the upper sections for about half a century. There is no physical answer for catastrophic collapse other than the use of explosives which were plainly visible in the videos. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUDoGuLpirc

Croce Loc: Earth

I don't really know the answers to your questions other than being able to apply inadequate layman logic. In the 1975 fire were the floors subjected to a 9700 gallon fuel spill to intensify the fire as was the N Tower on 911? The S Tower was hit at 540 mph with a dump of 9200 gallons of fuel. Seems like a little more than I would pour on charcoal in the backyard, but. The other thing which bothers me is the one sided certainty of the conspircacy theorists which is solely based on video likeness of the collapse as appearing like a vegas hotel demo. Larry, I do not have the answer nor sufficient knowledge to come to any conclusion, however if the theory is based on only physical appearance from a video of the collapse, I feel I certainly have enough knowledge to support doubt. If anyone can come forward with facts showing that the buildings were rigged with explosives prior to the collapse I would certainly give it due weight. What explosive, where were they placed, how much of it, when was it placed, how were they able to accomplish the plant without discovery, how were they detonated, by whom? A hell of a lot more than conjecture is needed to support the theory. I doubt anyone other than closed minded naive, blind loyalists would reject out of hand, the presentation of such proof. Certainly I would not reject offered proof, I doubt anyone on this forum would but theories which amount to bullshit subject to nothing but so called "proof" offered by the likes of our local conspiracy theorists? I think not.

gmcase Loc: Galt's Gulch

Well, thank you sir.

gmcase Loc: Galt's Gulch

I don't have all those answers either but I know the "official" storyline is not believable under scrutiny. Just The free fall speed makes the whole thing suspicious regardless of the footprint of the fall. I have come to understand it is not my responsibility to provide all the answers and because I can't it does not mean I have to accept absurdities in the "official" story either.

Building 7 did not have an ounce of jet fuel in it nor was it impacted by the jets directly. It came down at free fall speed too. 3 steel girder buildings all coming down at an extremely small deviation from free fall speed is suspicious, to say the least. It was the first time in history a steel girder building came down due to fire and here we have 3, in one day! How that was managed, if it was managed, is not my responsibility to explain but many smarter than me have demonstrated the official story has some serious credibility issues.

Croce Loc: Earth

I am just not qualified to offer more to solve this mystery however I do nelieve I am intelligent enough to examine submitted evidence and draw at least some sort of logical half assed conclusion based on something if that something were offered. I am at a loss to change my skepticism based on the absolutely non conclusive evidence offered or the building 7 story, which in my opinion is just that, a story. Again, bullshit subject to nothing. Can anyone offer something??????????????

rick Loc: Cape Cod, MA

I agree with all of that. You are not qualified, you are intelligent enough to draw some sort of half assed conclusion (just barely), you are at a loss, and your opinion is just that, bullshit subject to nothing. Croce, I think for the first time you and I are on the same page. Thanks for the update.

rick Loc: Cape Cod, MA

Btw, I forgot to add, I am pleased with the progress. It seems to me based on your most recent message we really are achieving some significant level of self awareness. I am glad I could help.

phcaan Loc: Willow Springs, MO

Just what is the matter with you? You just pop in and criticize and belittle other people for no reason. If you keep it up you will soon take JR1's place on this board as the nastiest most degrading person on the board.
As far as I can see you are a troll, are you on obama's payroll? or do you do this for free?

rick Loc: Cape Cod, MA

Btw Croce, lest it seem like I am singling you out, it is just that the rest are so bat shit crazy you seem to be the only one with a chance of saving. I mean to be honest the chances are slim to none but you are still our best option. Keep looking deep within, you might surprise yourself (and me).

rick Loc: Cape Cod, MA

Whoops

rick Loc: Cape Cod, MA

Oh, see, you had me thinking until I got to the Obama part and then I realized you are another of those bat shit crazy people. I am not a troll. I am just someone who has recognized there are some ignorant, racist, misguided people who might benefit from a dose of reality. You are living in a delusional world, on the edge of insanity, and if I can save one of you I have done some good.

Why should that bother you? You post this crazy, insane conspiracy crap and you question why I post? Come back to reality.