whole2th

Well, if "we" (UHH veterans) weren't already 80% of the way there in making personal attacks, perhaps you are correct.

I didn't invite 'attack', specifically. I invited speculations ... stories about what the repeated smiley faces mean.

It is your meaning you make that I only invited attacks.

I perceive that LP and I are attacked personally for exposing the criminality of zionists. These attacks don't address the facts. They attack the messengers.

rick Loc: Cape Cod, MA

Glad to hear something makes you gag, I was not sure you had anything inside that shell of yours other than hate and anger.

Yes, I am college educated. That is a negative in your world? Not too surprising.

I have plenty of self respect. Never in 45 years, since I was 16, have I ever been without a job, insurance, and I have happily paid my taxes to this great country of ours. I'd hazard a guess I paid more federal income tax last year than you earned in the entire year. I have raised my family, put my kids through college with zero debt, and have plenty saved for retirement but really enjoy my work so am having difficulty walking away. I have travelled the world and still do, and see the damage done by people similar to yourself. One of the differences between me and you (amongst many things thankfully) is I am not bitter, angry or fearful of life and the world around me. Feel free to spend your entire sad, pitiful, trivial life worrying about all that has been taken from you and what you fear will be. As I think I said in another post, the hate and anger put out there by people on this thread and in this forum in the guise of religion and politics is pitiful. So go and continue leading your small, pitiful, sad little life and keep on gagging.

rick Loc: Cape Cod, MA

Here are just a few. I fully understand how this just goes right over your head and needs highlighting. These are very subtle and maybe just too subtle for some.

"So, the "Tea Party" stole the concept of tea party from the 9/11 movement, especially to take away from the 9/11 movement the message of overthrowing tyrannical government that would attack people on our own soil to set up a coup in government and a policy coup over domestic and foreign policies."

Huh!!!

"The original message of Occupy Wall Street was co-opted by media with the assistance of provocateur/anarchists to divert attention from financial fraud and currency manipulations. Disrepute of the Occupy Wall Street movement was manufactured to put a smoke screen over the Occupy message."

"In the case of covering-up 9/11, it is the opinion of many that prosecution for "criminal conspiracy to cover up the 9/11 crimes" is possible. I hope and work for the day when the records of these exchanges become legal evidence against those who are actively participating in the conspiracy."

"As you watch these two videos, ask yourself how muslims placed the explosives in the Twin Towers and in Building 7.
The BBC announced twice that this building had already collapsed--23 minutes BEFORE it was demolished by controlled demolition. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NefExHDu3s In the chaos of 9/11, there would not have been time to rig for such a neat drop--just like an old Las Vegas hotel."

"If the Democrats would conduct the same purge of the Zionist offenders in the Democratic party, maybe the U.S. could withdraw from the Mideast turmoil and stop giving Israel $3 billion a year in military aid. If Israel does have a right to exist, they need to prove it without U.S. subsidies."

"As far as Jews in Congress, we need to keep Bernie Sanders, Ron Wyden and Alan Grayson. That would make Jewish representation just about match Jewish percentage of U.S. population."

"You missed the real point of my comment--that we need to purge the Zionists from Capitol Hill--those who manipulate the U.S. into war for Israel's benefit."

"Eric Cantor is a devoted Zionist who swears allegiance to Israel over the U.S.
My hope is this is the beginning of the end for Zionism on Capitol Hill.
Joe Leiberman, Debbie Wasserman Schultz, Charles Schumer and Diane Feinstein should be next to be voted out."

"They are sick and tired of the , give America away to the unwashed, un-productive, non-working, take everything you can get, bunch that support the so called president."

"Yes this is true, and that is why the republicans have no more legitimacy than the democrats or that thing that squats in the white house."

"Are there enough of we payers left to outvote the scum who take, take, take?"

I could go on but it would take forever...

dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma

that is their whole intent. as long as people respond to their post they think they are having a hey day.

whole2th

Go on doing what? Quoting and omitting the supportive links from the quotes? Quoting and dropping any further discussion of substance? Quoting and ignoring over, and over, and over again.

Quoting and seemingly by inference indicating you've somehow refuted the damning evidence that you take out of context (omitting links) and don't even attempt to refute?

I won't bother to collect all the "you're crazy", "that's wrong", and other non-replies. Everyone here knows who does this and how 'fruitful' such tactics are in forwarding conversation.

Nearly all the excerpts quoted above are valuable starts to productive exchange. What seems obvious is a concerted effort to put a full stop to the discoveries that are possible if we only have the courage and political will to take on the challenges.

I don't expect the divergent groups here could agree upon "fair play" rules of discussion and debate. From what I see, cheating the system of fair discussion seems integral to keeping the most urgent of subjects from being considered and discussed.

rick Loc: Cape Cod, MA

I was asked by Croce to "point out some of the more incredulous things" and then encouraged by Eugene to do the same. I think I did a really good job, right guys? I was not attempting to refute anything, just pointing out the absurdities as requested.

If those things are not incredulous to you I'd love to be a fly on the wall of your life - it has to be a doozy of a life and that is putting it politely. I could have pasted the entire post for each of those quotes but it would have meant posting almost the entire thread since much of it smacked of one form of insanity or another...

Croce Loc: Earth

You were asked by me and Eugene. Did you do it? No. Instead you lived up to the indictment the whole2th cast at you above. :thumbdown: :thumbdown: As much as I disagree with whole2th's general conspiracy theories, he is correct in his analysis of your posting in this thread.

whole2th

What is absurd about the claim that Building 7 is a classic controlled demolition--proving 9/11 to have had to involve insiders at the top levels of government, military, media and private sector (Silverstein group and insurers who paid Silverstein big buck$$$ for claims that should have been criminally investigated) ?

I've provided ample evidence of Building 7 being a controlled demolition.

What is absurd about the claim that the canard "Obama, the muslim" is a ruse--a deceptive tactic to draw attention away from the fact that Israel controls Obama's policies?

I could go on with each of the alleged "absurdities" to show that they are based in fact--and have done so before. I also know that Larry Payne has been posting similar or the same materials well before my arrival here.

When you write, "...right, guys", please tell me who "your guys" are. I think I already know... Just want you to put it on the record in your own post.

I don't see it as appropriate to place a menorah in front of the White House. Do you?

whole2th

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whole2th

Massive changes have overtaken our country, our way of life and that of much of the Western world.

Some here at UHH cannot fathom such a thing as a policy coup in the US--or even an outright (Trojan horse) coup which has occurred slowly like a snake swallowing its prey from the feet-up.

We can learn a great deal from some of the most fascinating and courageous people of our time. All of you could have appreciated what Larry Payne has had to offer--yet, there are "guys" here who see to it that the postings are ridiculed and derided so that good people (who just want to go along to get along) are too timid and programmed to look deeper.

It is human nature to go along with the herd and avoid being singled out. LP has overcome this conditioning.

An evil criminal element runs our money system, our media, Hollywood, Congress, Wall Street, most Federal ABC agencies and much more.

Just last night on Jeff Rense, a 9/11 investigator reported that the Jewish Russian mafia are key to knowing who did 9/11. For an historic perspective, do you know that Marxism is Jewish communism? Do you know that Obama was cultivated and sponsored by Marxist Jews?

Yes, it seems very strange, and I assure you, looking down the rabbit hole is no cake walk. On the other hand, waiting in line at the slaughterhouse--suspecting you are among the next to be slaughtered--has its disadvantages.

I'd rather know. I would rather that each of you know.

That's why I'm here.

whole2th

Zionist-driven Globalism and its collaborators are the greatest enemies of mankind. A Zionist matrix of international criminal banks, news and entertainment media, and Zionist political corruption is driving the world to war, to economic exploitation and to destruction of fundamental human rights, health, freedom and independence.

What is absurd about this premise? Look around you. See who hold all the cards and intimidate you into submission and silence.

Look here at the ridiculing and intimidating personalities. These are not nice human beings. They are hell-bent on silencing LP and I from getting our information into mainstream awareness. We have been conditioned from our infancy not to criticize our controllers--the zionists.

Perhaps you who worship Israel should have a license plate for your car--or move to Israel rather than destroy US sovereignty?

Join the Jews in Israel who agree with the Talmud that Jesus is in hell boiling in his own excrement. Here is one of many references to Jews' contempt for Jesus: http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Judaism/talmud.htm

S. Carolina Drivers Can Wear Their Love for Israel on Their Car

“South Carolina Stands With Israel.”
As if America couldn't get any more subservient and slavish to international Jewry and the fraudulent Jewish regime occupying Palestine, the state of South Carolina is now offering drivers there specially designed license plates which read: "South Carolina Stands with Israel". Expect other states to follow suit in the near future.

http://www.jewishpress.com/news/breaking-news/s-carolina-drivers-can-wear-their-love-for-israel-on-their-car/2014/06/07/

All these people want the license plate and would sacrifice their first-born son for Israel. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WF6irnzAiI

Why do Israeli Jews--and Jews world-wide--mock the crucifixion of Christ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RY83mAr5uA

Do you see AND SENSE the evil and insanity in this?

Croce Loc: Earth

While your presence, according to you anyway, is certainly noble in purpose; few here would be willing to accept your conspiracy theory. As I relive those horrible hours of 911, I see not only little, but absolutely nothing to support your contentions. When, and I mean no sarcasm, did you first recognize that you were a Jew hater? What event precipitated that self recognition? It is a serious question. Certainly you can not deny that you are. When did your high admiration of muslims emanate? Was it concomitant with your rejection of the Jews? Was it a gradual or sudden recognition? Again what was the precipitator? I'm not trying to trap you, I am trying to understand you. Your position is so contrary to that of the vast majority of Americans, myself included.

Gnslngr

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Gnslngr

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whole2th

If anything, I'm a JEW EXPOSER--not a Jew hater.

All fair questions, Croce, except when you say "I see absolutely nothing to support your contentions", you overlook so much as to indicate that you are not to be trusted to be a fair witness to the volumes of evidence that I and LP have presented.

On the slim to none chance that there is some sliver of integrity in you to really look, I offer this:

My entry point into GREAT CONCERNS about the agenda of zionists is the big lies of 9/11. You and I must agree that Building 7 was rigged for demolition in advance of 9/11 or we will just have to agree to disagree. I'll write further about allegations of being a "Jew hater" as you give these references due diligence, and you determine that 9/11 was, indeed, an inside/outside job, facilitated by a stand-down of US assets with complicity of mass media in the cover-up.

We won't make any progress to the conversation about what you allege is "Jew-hating" until we step through the evidence that the official story of 9/11 is big lies.

Incidentally, I consider you to be a slick deceiver, and expect you to reject the findings of AE911TRUTH and many others about Building 7.

In that case, please write an answer to this question: Why did the 9/11 Commission Report in over 700 pages and the newly dedicated 9/11 Museum OMIT ANY COMMENT OR EXHIBIT about Building 7?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWorDrTC0Qg

How did the BBC know to announce that Building 7 had already collapsed--before it actually collaped?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NefExHDu3s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UntixeRiEK8

And lastly, I expect you are a zionist--not an American.