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Feb 11, 2012 16:31:26   #
Judddude Loc: Missouri
 
Bah humbug....lol.

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Feb 11, 2012 16:38:23   #
Merlin1300 Loc: New England, But Now & Forever SoTX
 
steve_stoneblossom wrote:
ward5311 wrote:
I guess some folks still drop acid on ocasion. :-D
Not that there's anything wrong with that. :)

Hmmm - - does acidifying your developer bath help the tonal quality on the Kodachrome?? :shock:

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Feb 11, 2012 16:41:09   #
Merlin1300 Loc: New England, But Now & Forever SoTX
 
frangeo wrote:
Quality, I shoot commercial. I shoot advertising. I shoot models. No problem. You do not have a 2 stop over and under latitude. I would not go back to film for anything.
Haven't shot film since 1995. OBTW - Frangeo - - I'd definitely like to have one of those - - {cars? - bottom Pg 10}
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Also - if unsure about the exposure on digital - just set the camera for auto-bracket & push the button - ONE of the three will be PERFECT!

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Feb 11, 2012 16:41:42   #
Jer Loc: Mesa, Arizona
 
SoHillGuy wrote:
"Five Reasons Cameras Are Still Better Than Digital's"
http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2007/11/five-reasons-fi/

However, even film in it's early stages was nothing to really rave about. So as with film, Digital will mature.

The thing I see here in regards to your situation is that if you want to post some of your work created using film, you would have to scan it, which converts it to digital.
It looks like you are caught up in the digital world, like it of not.


I read the article from gadgetlab. How old is the article, good modern digital cameras don't have those problems. A few years ago, sure but not now.

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Feb 11, 2012 16:46:22   #
Judddude Loc: Missouri
 
Bah humbug....lol. Time to trade in the horse and buggy as well.

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Feb 11, 2012 16:57:00   #
Jer Loc: Mesa, Arizona
 
Yes, I think everyone has noticed scobie hasn't been back.
Probably because no one agrees with him.
I know that digital is more complicated that film but wow the options we not have. But you don't have to use them if you don't want to.

Happy photography everyone, regardless of what you use.

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Feb 11, 2012 16:57:10   #
steve_stoneblossom Loc: Rhode Island, USA
 
Merlin1300 wrote:
steve_stoneblossom wrote:
ward5311 wrote:
I guess some folks still drop acid on ocasion. :-D
Not that there's anything wrong with that. :)

Hmmm - - does acidifying your developer bath help the tonal quality on the Kodachrome?? :shock:


Not sure.Only know that acidifying your brain brings out some wild colors, man. :thumbup:

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Feb 11, 2012 17:35:21   #
StonyClove Loc: Catskill Mountains, NY
 
Scubie, it sounds like you are using a cheap lens on a crummy camera set to a low resolution JPEG capture setting, and then viewing the results on a cheap and/or poorly calibrated monitor. When I first started using digital, about 12 years ago, I was shooting images for clients that were used on billboards with a 6 megapixel camera. The billboards looked great. Thousands of working pros all over the world have acknowledged that digital puts a better paint brush in your hand. That is no guarantee you will paint a better picture. If you want to milk the digital revolution for all it has to offer, you have to accept that the tools and capabilities of the post-production phase are as essential to quality imagemaking as the lens or camera. Yeah, it's a money pit - always has been. We have to spend wisely and use our equipment to its maximum capabilities if we hope to make any money at this game. How does that differ from the film world?

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Feb 11, 2012 17:36:39   #
flytyer57 Loc: Mountain Home, Arkansas
 
I have a Canon 550D which has an 18 megapixel cropped sensor. I recently had a photo from it blown up to a 20x30 and I don't see anything in the picture to complain about. The problem you are having is the low megapixel rating of your camera. Truly, the more the mega pixels, the better for print size.

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Feb 11, 2012 17:41:18   #
The Watcher
 
I've been receiving daily e-mails from this site for about a month now. I find many of the topic interesting with lots of good answers. I've also been directed to other sites that I was unaware of. I'm a longtime photographer that started in the early seventies with 35mm cameras. I later decided that 6x7 would become my film size and moved in that direction. With cameras and a custom built darkroom geared to handle the 6x7 format. By trial and error and doing everything myself,except retouching negatives. Over time I become very good at shooting, developing and printing. Today, all of my film based equipment is put away. every few months I'll pull out my big camera with the four lens, and work their leaf shutters to keep them working properly. Now my medium is digital. I have several nonpro cameras, a 5mp and a Nikon 10mp with two lens. I also have a Epson photo printer that cost around a hundred dollars and a top of the line in its day Epson scanner. I can make beautiful 8x10 with my 5mp camera from jpeg files. I think the fellow who started this topic, needs to take the time to learn the digital medium. As for myself that would be understanding your camera. buy a good program like Photoshop Elements and a good photo printer. and learn how to combine all these elements. The great thing about digital photography is you get to see your image right away and that alone will help you become a better photographer.

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Feb 11, 2012 18:04:14   #
GENorkus Loc: Washington Twp, Michigan
 
CaptainC wrote:
The D70 is 250years old in digital equivalent. :-)

Film does indeed have some positives over digital, but to say it is worthless for quality images is........well...it is your opinion. If I had to go back to that old stuff I would quit. But that, of course, is my opinion.

I just delivered some 16x20's today and you can count the little striations in the person's iris.


I ditto Captain C's quote, (even though I like your talk about the Fovien (sp?) sensor.)

Many photographers are going back to film cameras mainly because they can't justify the expense for the guns.

If you obtain a newer up-to-date digital, I bet you'll have a hard time detecting the difference.

Should you have the cash, they're now taking pre-release orders for the new Nikon D800E and the specs clams to blow away all but a few other digitals.

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Feb 11, 2012 18:08:57   #
flytyer57 Loc: Mountain Home, Arkansas
 
GENorkus wrote:
Should you have the cash, they're now taking pre-release orders for the new Nikon D800E and the specs clams to blow away all but a few other digitals.


I do believe that new Nikon D800 has a 36.6 megapixel sensor which should allow you to blow up a picture VERY large.

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Feb 11, 2012 18:24:01   #
Satanta Loc: N.C.
 
I miss film but do not miss the costs and with digi I can shoot/edit and have print-ready in minutes instead of days.

Benefits to both but I think it won't be much longer before film goes the way of 8-tracks and cassettes.

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Feb 11, 2012 18:24:10   #
Pepper Loc: Planet Earth Country USA
 
What happened to “it aint the stove it’s the chef” or “it aint the arrow it’s the Indian”? What happen to the guy who can shoot a wedding with a cell phone? This pixel stuff and digital vs film debate seems to fly in the face of the “equipment doesn’t matter” chatter. Seems we just take whatever side of a debate that suits us at the time….just sayin.

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Feb 11, 2012 18:25:01   #
steve_stoneblossom Loc: Rhode Island, USA
 
Scubie wrote:
.....Maybe the new technology would give me better quality.....I was just wondering how others felt.....


I'm beginning to wonder if Scubie was interested in how we felt at all... 11 pages, no reply.

I'm thinking it's time to "unwatch"....

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