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Jun 7, 2014 12:58:08   #
Ka2azman Loc: Tucson, Az
 
bodacious wrote:
Pharmacists, of course their calm and all the rest. They after all are pharmacists and in control of a lot of medications. Hell anyone would be calm under circumstances like that.


When they count pills - what do they do with the dust?
CRUNCH, Oh no, look at that crushed pill and all that dust.
Federal form - one pill crushed - disposed by vacuuming up.
Now what was the vacuuming devise?????

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Jun 7, 2014 13:17:01   #
Ka2azman Loc: Tucson, Az
 
dljen wrote:
What are you talking about? Are you making statements or asking questions? I am not talking about the military at all. I'm talking about when they are released and carry guns...there was an instance in our town with a guy taking a walk in the early morning hours and he had an episode that led him to think he was being attacked. He got his gun out and shot several times but only shot himself. He was taken to the hospital.


You Stated clearly that PTSD is a reason to disarm people. The military is the biggest contributor to and as a matter of fact the place where the phrase was coined because of battle field PTSD conditions. As a matter of fact they have evidence from documents (Iliad) of thousands of years ago from the Trojan War of PTSD. Now it is being used else where, from car accidents to what ever. You explicitly stated those with PTSD need to be disarmed. If the military is causing so many PTSD cases you want them disarmed since they have it.

Example from your statement: This person in your town, symptoms did just appear after he was discharged from the military, it could easily be the reason. While he was in service he still had PTSD. Can't come to any other conclusion other than you want him disarmed, in or out of the military since he has PTSD.

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Jun 7, 2014 13:25:28   #
Sneidley Loc: Goodyear, AZ
 
richard-sports wrote:
Geez,,, those guys who wrote the Constitution meant a militia and a musket.
Not a f------ assault weapon, that any loon can lay his hands on.


Another person that no idea of what an "Assault Weapon" actually is.

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Jun 7, 2014 13:26:20   #
Ka2azman Loc: Tucson, Az
 
Red Bear wrote:
Uhm, help me here, PLS. Are we talking what are (loosely) called Kentucky long rifles? This is NOT my best history time frame ;-) :thumbup:


Rifled Pennsylvania or Kentucky long rifles. Range 100-200 yards. Did every American have one no. Some still had cheaper smooth bored.
The British had smoothed bore good for 50 yards. Their method was line up, lower gun, point in a general direction and fire. Hope for the best.
It wasn't that the British didn't have snipers with rifled barrels, but they saw it cheaper to have man losses than to pay for the higher grade weapon.

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Jun 7, 2014 13:29:08   #
dljen Loc: Central PA
 
Ka2azman wrote:
You Stated clearly that PTSD is a reason to disarm people. The military is the biggest contributor to and as a matter of fact the place where the phrase was coined because of battle field PTSD conditions. As a matter of fact they have evidence from documents (Iliad) of thousands of years ago from the Trojan War of PTSD. Now it is being used else where, from car accidents to what ever. You explicitly stated those with PTSD need to be disarmed. If the military is causing so many PTSD cases you want them disarmed since they have it.

Example from your statement: This person in your town, symptoms did just appear after he was discharged from the military, it could easily be the reason. While he was in service he still had PTSD. Can't come to any other conclusion other than you want him disarmed, in or out of the military since he has PTSD.
You Stated clearly that PTSD is a reason to disarm... (show quote)


Maybe I didn't express myself well. He was no longer in the military. He takes walks at 2-3 in the morning when it's dark. At the time, there was a neighborhood watch and people were jumpy. Someone was walking into houses. I live near a small town and some people left their doors open. He could have gotten himself shot by using his gun. He couldn't help it because he was having problems. I never said that the military should be disarmed. Never. I don't think ppl with PTSD should be armed because they have mental problems. There shouldn't be a stigma associated with this. If he is put on medicine, takes it regularly and has no problems in one year, I think it's fine to let him have a gun. That's the same I feel with anyone with a medical condition. I have depression and take meds. Not heavy duty ones but still...not everyone responds the same way to meds.

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Jun 7, 2014 13:33:04   #
bodacious Loc: Oregon
 
Ka2azman wrote:
When they count pills - what do they do with the dust?
CRUNCH, Oh no, look at that crushed pill and all that dust.
Federal form - one pill crushed - disposed by vacuuming up.
Now what was the vacuuming devise?????


A large straw and a small nose maybe.

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Jun 7, 2014 13:38:03   #
Red Bear
 
Ka2azman wrote:
Goliath was standing man to man and not in an armored uniform. Today a rock can't get through the face shield! lol


Hey! You gotz yer rocks and I gotz mine. :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Jun 7, 2014 13:38:46   #
Red Bear
 
Ka2azman wrote:
Rifled Pennsylvania or Kentucky long rifles. Range 100-200 yards. Did every American have one no. Some still had cheaper smooth bored.
The British had smoothed bore good for 50 yards. Their method was line up, lower gun, point in a general direction and fire. Hope for the best.
It wasn't that the British didn't have snipers with rifled barrels, but they saw it cheaper to have man losses than to pay for the higher grade weapon.


Got it! TNX :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

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Jun 7, 2014 13:55:04   #
Ka2azman Loc: Tucson, Az
 
rgrenaderphoto wrote:
Fine. Since you asked:

I believe that excessive gun collection is a sign of emotional weakness brought upon by a feeling of being out of control of your environment. Guns compensate for a lack of developed personality by allowing the holder to feel "big" because they are holding a weapon.

It is also a fetishistic extension that stems from primitive adherence to guns as a source of magic and power. "The gun in the United States seems to occupy a quasi-religious position, like a crucifix. It pervades all American movie culture just as the movie culture has expanded to the point where reality and fiction are indistinguishable. The world is populated by good guys and bad guys, and all problems can be (solved by firearms.)"
Fine. Since you asked: br br I believe that exce... (show quote)


If all problems are not solved by firearms, then why are all governments, to the hilt with armament to the point of over what they can afford? Why are all the people in power, whether King, Sultan, President, or what every other title they give them selves, rely so heavily on arms to keep them in power. One of us is illusional and doesn't have a grasp of reality.

Talking of illusional, what degree in the psychology do you have? Quote: "emotional weakness , feeling of being out of control of your environment, Guns compensate for a lack of developed personality , allowing the holder to feel "big" because they are holding a weapon, fetishistic extension that stems from primitive adherence to guns as a source of magic and power". These are catch phrases for one in the field for a practicing psychiatrist or one of the ilk. None of these statements are facts, but conclusions. Conclusions are expressed when one has a grasp of the ramifications and facts of what they are orating about.
Hope you have a license, because one can be in deep trouble trying to practice without one.

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Jun 7, 2014 14:01:16   #
wilpharm Loc: Oklahoma
 
bodacious wrote:
Pharmacists, of course their calm and all the rest. They after all are pharmacists and in control of a lot of medications. Hell anyone would be calm under circumstances like that.


usually calm, but some customers with dijenerates attitude can really wreck your day…everybody needs a good dose of the public from time to time...

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Jun 7, 2014 14:01:30   #
Ka2azman Loc: Tucson, Az
 
dljen wrote:
Maybe I didn't express myself well. He was no longer in the military. He takes walks at 2-3 in the morning when it's dark. At the time, there was a neighborhood watch and people were jumpy. Someone was walking into houses. I live near a small town and some people left their doors open. He could have gotten himself shot by using his gun. He couldn't help it because he was having problems. I never said that the military should be disarmed. Never. I don't think ppl with PTSD should be armed because they have mental problems. There shouldn't be a stigma associated with this. If he is put on medicine, takes it regularly and has no problems in one year, I think it's fine to let him have a gun. That's the same I feel with anyone with a medical condition. I have depression and take meds. Not heavy duty ones but still...not everyone responds the same way to meds.
Maybe I didn't express myself well. He was no long... (show quote)


Most of your post I don't agree with but this one has a very sound and logical position, and rare moments do come. I agree with this post! P.S. The rare moments was for both of us, not just you.

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Jun 7, 2014 14:04:47   #
Ka2azman Loc: Tucson, Az
 
bodacious wrote:
A large straw and a small nose maybe.


I wanted to go in that direction but didn't want to peeve a pharmacists off! They could spit in my meds, or worse "Mix up! Sorry! Just as dangerous as peeving off a cook or waiter/waitress. lol

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Jun 7, 2014 14:07:40   #
Ka2azman Loc: Tucson, Az
 
Red Bear wrote:
Hey! You gotz yer rocks and I gotz mine. :lol: :lol: :lol:


ha,ha,ha! :thumbup:

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Jun 7, 2014 14:10:04   #
dljen Loc: Central PA
 
wilpharm wrote:
usually calm, but some customers with dijenerates attitude can really wreck your day…everybody needs a good dose of the public from time to time...


I have always gotten along with pharmacists, you're not a good fit for the typical druggist, at least the ones I've had the good fortune to meet. If I'd run out of a prescription with a weekend coming up, they'd forward me some pills. You wouldn't. I'm glad you're far away from me.

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Jun 7, 2014 14:11:57   #
Red Bear
 
Ka2azman wrote:
Most of your post I don't agree with but this one has a very sound and logical position, and rare moments do come. I agree with this post! P.S. The rare moments was for both of us, not just you.


Good on both of you! :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

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