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Jun 6, 2014 10:41:36   #
kb6kgx Loc: Simi Valley, CA
 
MacroChick wrote:
I would say Google Bokeh. But your post made me laugh.


Well, I believe in the “Keep It Simple” method. Why complicate things. But, on the other hand, it’s a cool-sounding term that would make me sound like I know more of what I’m doing.

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Jun 6, 2014 10:43:19   #
jaymatt Loc: Alexandria, Indiana
 
It's a fancy photographic term, some say elitist, for the background (or maybe the foreground, too) being out of focus.

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Jun 6, 2014 10:45:55   #
MadMikeOne Loc: So. NJ Shore - a bit west of Atlantic City
 
Bobbee wrote:
Yeah, just be afraid of the answers.


Not afraid of much of anything -not the questions, answers to said questions, the IRS, bears, etc. I have even been known to exit perfectly good aircraft while still well airborne. As I think about it, it's a miracle I am still alive. That's it. I am convinced that I just need to lock myself in the house and cut off ties to the outside world for the rest of my, what will probably become my very dull, life.

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Jun 6, 2014 10:55:28   #
Reinaldokool Loc: San Rafael, CA
 
MadMikeOne wrote:
I keep seeing forum members referring to "bokeh". Could someone please explain what it is, how to get it, and when it might be wanted?
Just dumb it down for me.
Thanks guys and girls


Wikipedia gets it right. "In photography, bokeh (Originally /&#712;bo&#650;k&#603;/&#712;bo&#650;ke&#618;/ BOH-kay — also sometimes pronounced as /&#712;bo&#650;k&#601;/ BOH-k&#601;, Japanese: [boke) is the aesthetic quality of the blur produced in the out-of-focus parts of an image produced by a lens. Bokeh has been defined as "the way the lens renders out-of-focus points of light". Differences in lens aberrations and aperture shape cause some lens designs to blur the image in a way that is pleasing to the eye, while others produce blurring that is unpleasant or distracting—"good" and "bad" bokeh, respectively. Bokeh occurs for parts of the scene that lie outside the depth of field. Photographers sometimes deliberately use a shallow focus technique to create images with prominent out-of-focus regions."

The page includes a couple of excellent explanatory images.

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Jun 6, 2014 11:06:41   #
zincgt Loc: Tucson AZ
 
In first shot 85mm 1.8 lens was stopped down to f/8. If left alone at 1.8 the Bokeh would have been smoother yet. If noticed the "circles" of bokeh in background are octagonal instead of circular. Circular is always smoother. The smoothness tends to help the in focus Lorikeet look even sharper as this will give the eye "differential".The 2nd shot taken with an 18-55 kit lens a few years ago shows as little background as possible to keep "focus" on the subject. The 3rd shot was with a 90mm Tamron f/2.8 Macro lens. macro lenses will at this distance, always give you a large bokeh, or OOF area. Also the quality of the lens, which may mean anything from the number and shape of aperture blades to the speed of the lens will also make a difference.

Lorikeet
Lorikeet...
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Macro Bloom18-55mm
Macro Bloom18-55mm...
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90mm Macro caterpillar
90mm Macro caterpillar...
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Jun 6, 2014 11:09:15   #
mechengvic Loc: SoCalo
 
[quote=Reinaldokool]Wikipedia gets it right. "In photography, bokeh (Originally /&#712;bo&#650;k&#603;/&#712;bo&#650;ke&#618;/ BOH-kay — also sometimes pronounced as /&#712;bo&#650;k&#601;/ BOH-k&#601;, Japanese: [boke) is the aesthetic quality of the blur produced in the out-of-focus parts of an image produced by a lens. Bokeh has been defined as "the way the lens renders out-of-focus points of light". Differences in lens aberrations and aperture shape cause some lens designs to blur the image in a way that is pleasing to the eye, while others produce blurring that is unpleasant or distracting—"good" and "bad" bokeh, respectively. Bokeh occurs for parts of the scene that lie outside the depth of field. Photographers sometimes deliberately use a shallow focus technique to create images with prominent out-of-focus regions."

The page includes a couple of excellent explanatory images.[/quote]

There is a contradiction in that definition but I understand why it is so, and it helps to illustrate the point I made earlier. Wiki says bokeh is an "aesthetic quality OF the blur" , earlier I said that bokeh is a potential component of the oof blur of an image. Which means that bokeh DOES mean good blur, or pleasing blur, or aesthetic, etc.

The contradiction is in wiki's use of "good bokeh" vs. "bad bokeh". If bokeh IS the "good" component of blur then it can't be bad. That's like saying "bad good blur".

But I understand why the term " bad bokeh" is used. Because also contained within the blur of your background might reside artifacts that are NOT bokeh, and are NOT simply blur, but ARE distracting components of the blur that take attention away from the subject. Since we have yet to invent a word for that, the term "bad bokeh" is used.

I feel pretty confident about this summery.

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Jun 6, 2014 11:11:51   #
Phyllis Loc: NE PA
 
Bokeh

Summicron M f2 75mm ASPH
Summicron M f2 75mm ASPH...

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Jun 6, 2014 11:42:18   #
RichieC Loc: Adirondacks
 
MadMikeOne wrote:
That helped A LOT! DOF and bokeh are not the same. I am finally getting it.
Thank you so very much.


Bokeh is progressively attractive with better lenses, some are famous for buttery bokeh. It is a technique that can make the subject pop out of the frame, attracting all the viewers attention to the intended subject rather then exist in a confused and detailed field when everything is all in focus. I think it lends a professional touch to an image.

Bokeh exists in the areas outside your DOF. So the two are related. You achieve it usually by using larger apertures and thus short DOF.

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Jun 6, 2014 11:48:09   #
Saigon Loc: Atlanta, GA
 
Bokeh Portraiture....


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Jun 6, 2014 13:30:24   #
Jim Peters Loc: Pittsburgh
 
it's ELMER FUDD Saying Broken!

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Jun 6, 2014 13:47:58   #
PhotoGator Loc: Florida
 
What is Bokeh?

http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/bokeh.htm

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Jun 6, 2014 14:44:09   #
emmons267 Loc: Arizona, Valley of the Sun
 
Pretty funny... Out of 7 pages of replies, only 12 included photos. And this is a photography forum...lol

Bokeh, blur, OOF, combination ???
Bokeh, blur, OOF, combination ???...

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Jun 6, 2014 15:39:43   #
blackest Loc: Ireland
 
go on then , this isn't very well focused on the subject , my fault not the lens a 37-39 year old manual f1.7 55mm but the background has something.

well sprung onions
well sprung onions...
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Jun 6, 2014 15:41:02   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
mfeveland wrote:
Pretty funny... Out of 7 pages of replies, only 12 included photos. And this is a photography forum...lol


Nice shot mfeveland, was this from your Sony RX?

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Jun 6, 2014 15:49:02   #
emmons267 Loc: Arizona, Valley of the Sun
 
Racmanaz wrote:
Nice shot mfeveland, was this from your Sony RX?

Thanks. Yes, it was.

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