Republicans are trying to steal elections and hand them over to the wealthy (Page 2): A liberal conservative, not a conservative liberal. Exactly, that is the point. I used to be a...

xxredbeardxx Loc: San Clemente CA.

Knight Shooter wrote:

Really, a conservative liberal? Way to take a principled stand. What is a 'conservative liberal' in modern day parlance? And by the way, there is no 'tea party'... in the sense that there are republican and democrat parties. The tea party was a term given to a diverse group of people who are fed up with the Washington establishment... particularly their irresponsible spending of tax payer money.

A liberal conservative, not a conservative liberal.
Exactly, that is the point. I used to be a republican.
That was before I felt they sold us down the river.

Both parties are self serving and don't care about
those that voted them in. All they care about is
filling their own pockets. They don't care about
what's best for our country. In a nut shell, both
parties are bad. That's why countries like China
own us. we are pretty much bankrupt in case you
haven't noticed.

Your right about the tea party not being a party.
They are the conservative conservatives and they
think they can bring the republicans back around to
their way of thinking. All that does is split the vote.
That's why the democrats win.

I usually don't get involved in the chit chat here.
I'm more interested in photography, but sometimes
when the pusher man throws these crazy articles
out there I can't resist seeing what he's pushing now.
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brow3904 Loc: Upstate South Carolina

And I bet you criticize others for watching FOX news! Thank goodness that's one of the "freedoms" we have in the US but it isn't going to be here long if things continue to go as they have for the past five years.

xxredbeardxx Loc: San Clemente CA.

brow3904 wrote:

And I bet you criticize others for watching FOX news! Thank goodness that's one of the "freedoms" we have in the US but it isn't going to be here long if things continue to go as they have for the past five years.

If you click on the quote reply button we will know
who you are referring too? Personally, I don't care
who or what you watch. Just remember, they are watching you too. :thumbup:

Knight Shooter Loc: Bangor, Pennsylvania

I humbly disagree with your assessment that dems win because the tea party splits the vote. The reason why dems win are two-fold: 1) Republicans don't care to differentiate themselves and their believe system. If only they would embrace and articulate the differences, the would win... think President Reagan. 2) Dems are liars, they campaign one way, and govern the opposite... think Obama. Example, he was against gay marriage when campaigning, now he's for it. He proclaims to be a Christian, but has voted for infanticide. He said you could keep your doctor and health care, and premiums would decrease by $2500 on average... all untrue, and by design so. Tea party candidates lose because they get out spent, but that will be changing as well.

xxredbeardxx wrote:

A liberal conservative, not a conservative liberal... (show quote)

Knight Shooter Loc: Bangor, Pennsylvania

Also, why not vote for a candidate, instead of for a party. We need to elect someone, and if they lie and cheat, then we elect someone else... simple as that. REmember, none of us are perfect, and not everyone will agree on everything. Once that's understood, we can elect people who are willing to serve the people, and not steal from them, or try and control them. Also, would you consider elected office? That's always an option to affect change.

xxredbeardxx wrote:

A liberal conservative, not a conservative liberal... (show quote)

mwoods222 Loc: Newburg N.Y,

Why does all those patriotic Dems not mention
George Soros 26.5 billion
Sheldon Adelson 38.4 billion
Michael Blonberg 31.8 bil
Thomas Steyer a mere 1.6 bil
James Simons 12.5 bil
Jeffery Katzenberg a borderline poorper at 860 mil
and lets not forget Chris Hughs at only 450 mil
and what do they all have in common
their all DEMOCRATS

xxredbeardxx Loc: San Clemente CA.

Knight Shooter wrote:

I humbly disagree with your assessment that dems w... (show quote)

1. Think Reagan. Reagan economics didn't work.
His famous trickle down theory gave lots of breaks
to large companies hoping they would hire more.
Instead they took the money and ran with it.
They laid off more folks and kept every dime and invested it over seas.

2. Both parties lie. If you don't believe that you deceive
yourself. They say whatever it takes to get into office.
Then during the second term they do whatever the
people that bought them paid them to do. They
can't run for a third term anyway, so they are safe
to do that.

See all the crap you stir up pusher man.
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yhtomit Loc: Port Land. Oregon

xxredbeardxx wrote:

Both Parties stink. Welcome to corporate America.

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WAKE UP AMERICA!

Knight Shooter Loc: Bangor, Pennsylvania

Just some inconvenient facts... why do you pester the poor dems with these trivialities. Don't you know they have important work to do... managing everyone's lives... controlling, and micro managing everything.

mwoods222 wrote:

Why does all those patriotic Dems not mention
George Soros 26.5 billion
Sheldon Adelson 38.4 billion
Michael Blonberg 31.8 bil
Thomas Steyer a mere 1.6 bil
James Simons 12.5 bil
Jeffery Katzenberg a borderline poorper at 860 mil
and lets not forget Chris Hughs at only 450 mil
and what do they all have in common
their all DEMOCRATS

Knight Shooter Loc: Bangor, Pennsylvania

Do you drive a car? Do you shop at the mall? Do you go out to eat good food at restaurants? Do you buy food at a supermarket? Do you have a mortgage? Do you go to the movies, own a TV, DVD player... etc., etc., etc.

You know, there are countless things that make our lives so joyful, and that are brought to us by 'corporate America'. Are they perfect? Are you? Remember, corporations are people, and as such, are susceptible to the same infallibilities as you and I.

yhtomit wrote:

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WAKE UP AMERICA!

yhtomit Loc: Port Land. Oregon

Knight Shooter wrote:

Do you drive a car? Do you shop at the mall? Do you go out to eat good food at restaurants? Do you buy food at a supermarket? Do you have a mortgage? Do you go to the movies, own a TV, DVD player... etc., etc., etc.

You know, there are countless things that make our lives so joyful, and that are brought to us by 'corporate America'. Are they perfect? Are you? Remember, corporations are people, and as such, are susceptible to the same infallibilities as you and I.

I really love all the cool toys I worked for and own.
Corporations are not people.When was the last time a human went into labor and had a corporation?They are not individuals by any definition.SCOTUS screwed up big time.They got it wrong just like the ACA ruling.
We have factions now that take turns spending tax payer money.
Wake up America.

Pepper Loc: Planet Earth Country USA

I havent thought this through but what if we eliminate the two party system altogether? No party affiliation, you run on what you believe. No one can go to the pole and just pull a lever and vote for a logo. No party association so you must listen to the candidate to see what they believe. Think of how the dialog would changer here on the Hog, no more all repubs this and all dems are that. One could no longer get away with saying the dems or the repbubs did this or that, theyd have to name names and that in itself would eliminate a lot of BS. My god folks would actually have to think for themselves. I would guess that the voting numbers would decline dramatically but maybe a small informed vote would be better than a huge uninformed party vote. PACs, corporations, rich folks would all have to support candidates instead of parties. Oh and our elected officials could no longer hide behind party logos and use party loyalty as an excuse to vote for or against anything.

mikedidi46 Loc: WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA

dakotacheryl wrote:

Democrat yard sign:

"Vote Democrat, we give you more of other people's stuff"

YUP

a little history
a little history...

dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma

Knight Shooter wrote:

Really, a conservative liberal? Way to take a principled stand. What is a 'conservative liberal' in modern day parlance? And by the way, there is no 'tea party'... in the sense that there are republican and democrat parties. The tea party was a term given to a diverse group of people who are fed up with the Washington establishment... particularly their irresponsible spending of tax payer money.

The tea party was a term given to a diverse group of people who are fed up with the Washington establishment :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :?: :?: :?:

they are just a method of distraction to the people who have no idea what is going on... and an insult or slap in the face to the real tea party. :roll:

dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma

yhtomit wrote:

I really love all the cool toys I worked for and own.
Corporations are not people.When was the last time a human went into labor and had a corporation?They are not individuals by any definition.SCOTUS screwed up big time.They got it wrong just like the ACA ruling.
We have factions now that take turns spending tax payer money.
Wake up America.

but they (corporations) are sure what to have the right to vote.