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May 21, 2014 17:16:27   #
bodacious Loc: Oregon
 
Ka2azman wrote:
I left your whole message here so there is no doubt as to what I am about to say and it wasn't just nit picked.

Quote: "As a Muslim, I try my best to avoid telling a lie." Notice the limiting words "try my best". That means he can and does. Its just he tries to limit it. Crapola!

Quote:"... nor do I consider the killing of innocent women, children and other humans as an appreciable act." Why does the Jihad wrap bombs around people then have them walk into a crowd and blow it up, killing and maiming innocent women and children and other humans? (The only other humans would be men). Oh because they are not deemed innocent. Then this is one of those" I tried not lie" but I did. Crapola!

Quote: " Islam strictly forbids causing harm to innocent women, children and other people. Such a practice is forbidden even in the course of a battle." Syria is killing pretty much nothing but Islamic women, children, and again other people (men). If Islam strictly forbids it how does one get a Jihad? Why is the cry "kill the infidels ".
Why when the cartoonist in England made a cartoon of Mohammad a Jihad was announced to kill the infidel for insulting Mohammad. How do you have a battle if "Such a practice is forbidden even in the course of a battle." Crapola!

How do you defend bombing the Olympic games, killing athletes (these ineligible innocent people that you say are not allowed to be targeted). Crapola!

How about sending rockets into Israel indiscriminatly. They kill innocent women, children, and other humans. This is what you say islam says you can't do. But they do it! Crapola!

DON'T NEED TO ANSWER, YOUR FULL OF CRAPOLA!
I left your whole message here so there is no doub... (show quote)



Seems that with the muslims and the koran every thing not directly concerned to them shall either die or be taxed as slaves, whom they will randomly kill at a later date. To lie, misconceive, berate and destroy all infidels in their so called religious cult is one of their greatest joys in life. There is really no such thing as a good muslim when you take into consideration their beliefs bestowed to them from their bauble, I mean bible.

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May 21, 2014 17:18:21   #
bodacious Loc: Oregon
 
mwsilvers wrote:
Were you dropped on your head as a baby or are your parents actually brother and sister? I'm try to understand some logical reason for your absurd utterances other then antisemitism or a low IQ.


BOTH. sad isn't it.

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May 21, 2014 17:38:36   #
larrypayne Loc: Texas Hill Country
 
mwsilvers wrote:
Were you dropped on your head as a baby or are your parents actually brother and sister? I'm try to understand some logical reason for your absurd utterances other then antisemitism or a low IQ.


You're demonstrating a low IQ by not being able to tell the difference between buildings that are collapsing and buildings that are being blown up.

I can't imagine an IQ that low in an adult.

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May 21, 2014 17:39:09   #
larrypayne Loc: Texas Hill Country
 
bodacious wrote:
BOTH. sad isn't it.


Another extremely low IQ.

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May 21, 2014 18:00:21   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
larrypayne wrote:
You're demonstrating a low IQ by not being able to tell the difference between buildings that are collapsing and buildings that are being blown up.

I can't imagine an IQ that low in an adult.

Really? Are you suggesting the world trade center was blown up and didn't collapse? Because from my vantage point on the ground less then 500 ft from the base of the south tower, it sure looked like the plane I saw hit it. Not too long after, near Broadway at a distance of less than 1000 ft, I was also an eyewitness to the incredibly loud sound and horrific image of a slightly shimmering south tower leaning a couple of degrees towards my direction and collapsing from top to bottom. I was in the World Trade Center shopping concourse earlier when the first plane hit the north tower. I'm not sure what you saw. How far away were you standing? Which street were you on? Or are you just talking out of your ass?

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May 21, 2014 18:09:00   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
The interesting thing about conspiracy theory crazies is that they are never actually witnesses to the events they deny, but they still claim to have more accurate info on what happened than the people who were actually there. Further, their concocted stories are far more complicated and unlikely then the version they deny and usually involves their ongoing mistrust and hatred of their government, liberals, Jews, Zionists and Israel. Their paranoia know no bounds. They would be sad, funny little people who could be easily ignored if they weren't so scary and a potentially dangerous threat to a free society.

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May 21, 2014 18:16:48   #
marblclear Loc: Sacramento CA
 
JaiGieEse wrote:
Still not close to my hat.


Actually, John Wayne did where a hat similar to yours in The Searchers. But I guess that's beside the point. Actually I think I've lost the point of this whole thread. ;-)

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May 21, 2014 18:20:24   #
imntrt1 Loc: St. Louis
 
Ka2azman wrote:
I left your whole message here so there is no doubt as to what I am about to say and it wasn't just nit picked.

Quote: "As a Muslim, I try my best to avoid telling a lie." Notice the limiting words "try my best". That means he can and does. Its just he tries to limit it. Crapola!

Quote:"... nor do I consider the killing of innocent women, children and other humans as an appreciable act." Why does the Jihad wrap bombs around people then have them walk into a crowd and blow it up, killing and maiming innocent women and children and other humans? (The only other humans would be men). Oh because they are not deemed innocent. Then this is one of those" I tried not lie" but I did. Crapola!

Quote: " Islam strictly forbids causing harm to innocent women, children and other people. Such a practice is forbidden even in the course of a battle." Syria is killing pretty much nothing but Islamic women, children, and again other people (men). If Islam strictly forbids it how does one get a Jihad? Why is the cry "kill the infidels ".
Why when the cartoonist in England made a cartoon of Mohammad a Jihad was announced to kill the infidel for insulting Mohammad. How do you have a battle if "Such a practice is forbidden even in the course of a battle." Crapola!

How do you defend bombing the Olympic games, killing athletes (these ineligible innocent people that you say are not allowed to be targeted). Crapola!

How about sending rockets into Israel indiscriminatly. They kill innocent women, children, and other humans. This is what you say islam says you can't do. But they do it! Crapola!

DON'T NEED TO ANSWER, YOUR FULL OF CRAPOLA!
I left your whole message here so there is no doub... (show quote)


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May 21, 2014 18:35:27   #
larrypayne Loc: Texas Hill Country
 
mwsilvers wrote:
Really? Are you suggesting the world trade center was blown up and didn't collapse? Because from my vantage point on the ground less then 500 ft from the base of the south tower, it sure looked like the plane I saw hit it. Not too long after, near Broadway at a distance of less than 1000 ft, I was also an eyewitness to the incredibly loud sound and horrific image of a slightly shimmering south tower leaning a couple of degrees towards my direction and collapsing from top to bottom. I was in the World Trade Center shopping concourse earlier when the first plane hit the north tower. I'm not sure what you saw. How far away were you standing? Which street were you on? Or are you just talking out of your ass?
Really? Are you suggesting the world trade center ... (show quote)


This is what I saw: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUDoGuLpirc

And this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LD06SAf0p9A

The second building, WTC7 wasn't hit by a plane.

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May 21, 2014 18:38:26   #
whole2th
 
mwsilvers wrote:
Really? Are you suggesting the world trade center was blown up and didn't collapse? Because from my vantage point on the ground less then 500 ft from the base of the south tower, it sure looked like the plane I saw hit it. Not too long after, near Broadway at a distance of less than 1000 ft, I was also an eyewitness to the incredibly loud sound and horrific image of a slightly shimmering south tower leaning a couple of degrees towards my direction and collapsing from top to bottom. I was in the World Trade Center shopping concourse earlier when the first plane hit the north tower. I'm not sure what you saw. How far away were you standing? Which street were you on? Or are you just talking out of your ass?
Really? Are you suggesting the world trade center ... (show quote)


Firemen and other witnesses who were there noted bombs going off. Some who watched live video heard the bombs going off. Just before the first plane hit the first Twin Tower, a bomb went off in the basement according to people who were there. (William Rodriguez). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVc7p0YQSuw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHhiRIgzI_c

There is sufficient evidence of explosions to warrant a full investigation.

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May 21, 2014 18:40:49   #
larrypayne Loc: Texas Hill Country
 
mwsilvers wrote:
The interesting thing about conspiracy theory crazies is that they are never actually witnesses to the events they deny, but they still claim to have more accurate info on what happened than the people who were actually there. Further, their concocted stories are far more complicated and unlikely then the version they deny and usually involves their ongoing mistrust and hatred of their government, liberals, Jews, Zionists and Israel. Their paranoia know no bounds. They would be sad, funny little people who could be easily ignored if they weren't so scary and a potentially dangerous threat to a free society.
The interesting thing about conspiracy theory craz... (show quote)


mwsilvers, you sound like a Zionist with a lot to hide.

Here's the evidence against your political movement:

http://wikispooks.com/wiki/9/11:Israel_did_it

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May 21, 2014 19:43:54   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
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whole2th wrote:
Firemen and other witnesses who were there noted bombs going off. Some who watched live video heard the bombs going off. Just before the first plane hit the first Twin Tower, a bomb went off in the basement according to people who were there. (William Rodriguez). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVc7p0YQSuw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHhiRIgzI_c

There is sufficient evidence of explosions to warrant a full investigation.

I was in the basement of the World Trade Center 30 seconds before the the first plane hit. I was just getting out of the PATH train station in the sub basement. I was on the escalator to the concourse when it did hit. There were no explosions. After two years in the army during Vietnam I know what an explosion sounds like. And I was also working at the World Trade Center in '93 when there was an explosion in the basement. A completely different sound and feel. I also spoke to several first responders and each of them told me a plane had hit the the North Tower, no explosion. When I went outside I stood across the street in front of the Brooks Brother store on the corner of Liberty Street and Greenwich St. I met two people I knew there who indicated they saw a commercial jet plane hit the North Tower. You are victim of bad reporting, bad science, and a desire to believe conspiracies all around you.

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May 21, 2014 19:45:25   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
larrypayne wrote:
mwsilvers, you sound like a Zionist with a lot to hide.

Here's the evidence against your political movement:

http://wikispooks.com/wiki/9/11:Israel_did_it


I'm not a Zionist. I'm not even Jewish. But I'm intelligent, not a racist, and was taught how to think. You apparently are just a hate monger.

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May 21, 2014 20:00:19   #
larrypayne Loc: Texas Hill Country
 
mwsilvers wrote:
I'm not a Zionist. I'm not even Jewish. But I'm intelligent, not a racist, and was taught how to think. You apparently are just a hate monger.


Criticizing a political movement is not criticizing a race. Why do so many on this forum fail to realize this? If I criticized the Nazis, would that make me a racist against Germans? You have an agenda and you twist reality to fit that agenda.

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May 21, 2014 20:03:01   #
larrypayne Loc: Texas Hill Country
 
mwsilvers wrote:
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I was in the basement of the World Trade Center 30 seconds before the the first plane hit. I was just getting out of the PATH train station in the sub basement. I was on the escalator to the concourse when it did hit. There were no explosions. After two years in the army during Vietnam I know what an explosion sounds like. And I was also working at the World Trade Center in '93 when there was an explosion in the basement. A completely different sound and feel. I also spoke to several first responders and each of them told me a plane had hit the the North Tower, no explosion. When I went outside I stood across the street in front of the Brooks Brother store on the corner of Liberty Street and Greenwich St. I met two people I knew there who indicated they saw a commercial jet plane hit the North Tower. You are victim of bad reporting, bad science, and a desire to believe conspiracies all around you.
. br I was in the basement of the World Trade Cen... (show quote)


Maybe you missed all the media reports of explosions on 9/11.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UKfzGt6Fxk
Refute that if you can.

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