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Feb 6, 2012 19:11:52   #
gledor42 Loc: Folsom California
 
As an aspiring stock photographer, I am hoping someone can help me how to handle this problem regarding model releases. Knowing that the images that sell are those of people interacting with humans or animals, I am in a quandary as how to approach people for their permission. Some release forms can be too intrusive as to ask  for their address , phone number and signature. Do I shoot first then ask or ask first then shoot?
Any thoughts, suggestions?
Thank you in advance. 

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Feb 6, 2012 19:22:24   #
photo guy Loc: Chippewa Falls, WI
 
Ask then shoot. I have done a lot of reading and studying up on the subject as I have to know about it being the FD Photographer. The dept was even shocked to find out how much I have to know about the different things in photography. I have some model release forms that I could get to you to look at if that would help. If so, send me a pm and we can go from there.

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Feb 6, 2012 19:30:37   #
CaptainC Loc: Colorado, south of Denver
 
The only time you NEED a release is if that image will appear as a commercial usage. So if it is used to promote the sale of anything, you need a release. So since you want to be a stock photographer, they will require a release for any human or recognizable property you submit since the ultimate use is beyond your control. 99.9999% of people shown in stock images are posed, so getting a release is no big deal - you have to hire them or coerce friends, so getting a release signed is just part of the business.
If you want to use strangers, you gotta suck it up and ask - and yes, you need their name, address, and contact information.
Look at any stock agencies site and see if you see even ONE image that looks like it was not a setup/posed image. So getting a release should not be an issue.
What will be an issue is making any real money in stock. :-)

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Feb 6, 2012 19:34:58   #
photo guy Loc: Chippewa Falls, WI
 
CaptainC wrote:
The only time you NEED a release is if that image will appear as a commercial usage. So if it is used to promote the sale of anything, you need a release. So since you want to be a stock photographer, they will require a release for any human or recognizable property you submit since the ultimate use is beyond your control. 99.9999% of people shown in stock images are posed, so getting a release is no big deal - you have to hire them or coerce friends, so getting a release signed is just part of the business.
If you want to use strangers, you gotta suck it up and ask - and yes, you need their name, address, and contact information.
Look at any stock agencies site and see if you see even ONE image that looks like it was not a setup/posed image. So getting a release should not be an issue.
What will be an issue is making any real money in stock. :-)
The only time you NEED a release is if that image ... (show quote)



Well put. Some of my relatives are not happy with me doing my volunteer work as the dept photographer but I don't care. I am giving back to my community. I have a paying job so it doesn't bother me. Everyone keep up the nice work.

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Feb 6, 2012 22:45:37   #
sweetlady1155 Loc: PITTSBURGH, PENNSYLVANIA USA
 
photo guy wrote:
CaptainC wrote:
The only time you NEED a release is if that image will appear as a commercial usage. So if it is used to promote the sale of anything, you need a release. So since you want to be a stock photographer, they will require a release for any human or recognizable property you submit since the ultimate use is beyond your control. 99.9999% of people shown in stock images are posed, so getting a release is no big deal - you have to hire them or coerce friends, so getting a release signed is just part of the business.
If you want to use strangers, you gotta suck it up and ask - and yes, you need their name, address, and contact information.
Look at any stock agencies site and see if you see even ONE image that looks like it was not a setup/posed image. So getting a release should not be an issue.
What will be an issue is making any real money in stock. :-)
The only time you NEED a release is if that image ... (show quote)



Well put. Some of my relatives are not happy with me doing my volunteer work as the dept photographer but I don't care. I am giving back to my community. I have a paying job so it doesn't bother me. Everyone keep up the nice work.
quote=CaptainC The only time you NEED a release i... (show quote)


I understand what you are saying about doing volunteer photography. In my life - I love art of all types and my oldest son (26) loves music. Several years ago I began shooting young high school bands with a production company here in Pittsburgh, Pa that promotes and gives exposure to these up and coming new groups. I gave a free photo shoot as one of the prizes for the winner as well as shooting any band that wanted professional pics during each night of competition - the deal was 25 shots for $25.00. Basically paying for my gas for the evening and a few cans of pop. Anyway, I get in the same conversation with family - since I'm disabled now and don't even get $500.00 a month. But I simply LOVE watching these kids get their dreams and having decent photos is a step up for many of them. I can't do much to give back to the world of art / music - but I do what I can. I give you props for following your heart too.

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Feb 6, 2012 22:49:57   #
photo guy Loc: Chippewa Falls, WI
 
Thank You. I enjoy what I do. I have relative who were vol. firefighters who wondered if I was going to jump aboard too. I chose this route instead for it is a little safer. I still get the thrill as they call it but do it safer. (They went inside the burning buildings, I stay outside until it is out unless it is too damaged to go in)

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Feb 6, 2012 23:18:12   #
gledor42 Loc: Folsom California
 
Sir, I salute you!
Your portraits are awesome and amazing!!!
What camera and lens( setting, exposure, shutter speed, ISO,
Studio lights? ) do you use, if you don't
Mind my asking.
Again thank you so much for sharing your
talent.

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Feb 6, 2012 23:27:11   #
photo guy Loc: Chippewa Falls, WI
 
gledor42 wrote:
Sir, I salute you!
Your portraits are awesome and amazing!!!
What camera and lens( setting, exposure, shutter speed, ISO,
Studio lights? ) do you use, if you don't
Mind my asking.
Again thank you so much for sharing your
talent.


I mainly use my Fuji FinePix S1500 10mp w/12x optical but I also use my Kodak EasyShare M530 12mp w/3x optical (my P&S). When I am on scenes I mainly use SR Auto (Scene Recognition Auto) as scenes can be busy at times but lately I have been playing with the setting and trying Manual and Arputure to see if I can get some more nice shots in different settings. So far it has worked a few times doing this. I also am in the habit of using a tripod when doing this as it helps keep the camera steady. I got some nice photos from up in the air with my Kodak back in Oct. 2011 at the dept open house when I was able to go up in the Snorkel truck for some air shots. I put my Kodak on my monopod and it helped trimendously on keeping it steady. When I first started doing this, I didn't always use a tripod but have since been doing it almost all the time and it has helped and shown in nicer photos.

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Feb 6, 2012 23:30:56   #
photo guy Loc: Chippewa Falls, WI
 
I do not own any studio lights as that wouldn't be possible for me to use most of the time. My Fuji is a bridge camera (non dslr)camera so I can't change lenses. I just recently (over the weekend) figured out more on how to change my shutter time and a few other setting so I am eager to try them out the next time I go out on a call since I just tried it on nature photography. If you have any more questions, please feel free to ask. I love to answer questions.

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Feb 6, 2012 23:41:07   #
gledor42 Loc: Folsom California
 
Photo Guy,
Check out the website of Capt C.
It will blow your mind!!!!!
And thanks for your help.

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Feb 6, 2012 23:53:52   #
photo guy Loc: Chippewa Falls, WI
 
Any time

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Feb 7, 2012 01:43:28   #
CaptainC Loc: Colorado, south of Denver
 
gledor42 wrote:
Sir, I salute you!
Your portraits are awesome and amazing!!!
What camera and lens( setting, exposure, shutter speed, ISO,
Studio lights? ) do you use, if you don't
Mind my asking.
Again thank you so much for sharing your
talent.


Who are you asking?

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Feb 7, 2012 01:48:18   #
gledor42 Loc: Folsom California
 
CaptainC wrote:
gledor42 wrote:
Sir, I salute you!
Your portraits are awesome and amazing!!!
What camera and lens( setting, exposure, shutter speed, ISO,
Studio lights? ) do you use, if you don't
Mind my asking.
Again thank you so much for sharing your
talent.


Who are you asking?


You Capt C. Sorry about the mistake.
My fault.

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Feb 7, 2012 01:56:38   #
CaptainC Loc: Colorado, south of Denver
 
gledor42 wrote:
CaptainC wrote:
gledor42 wrote:
Sir, I salute you!
Your portraits are awesome and amazing!!!
What camera and lens( setting, exposure, shutter speed, ISO,
Studio lights? ) do you use, if you don't
Mind my asking.
Again thank you so much for sharing your
talent.


Who are you asking?


You Capt C. Sorry about the mistake.

I answered you in a PM. Made me re-check my insurance!
My fault.

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Feb 7, 2012 05:42:05   #
mickeys Loc: Fort Wayne, IN
 
walk up to that person interduce your self and what you are doing . Ask if it's alright to photograph them and if they wouldn't mind signing a release form. but if you photograph them from behind and are not reconized you may not have to have one. the key words is may not.

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