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Mar 29, 2014 00:27:07   #
peteaaa Loc: weiser, Idaho
 
Bunko.T wrote:
Skepticism? A blind man on a galloping horse can see it's a Farmall. Lol
However, it's a fact of life we all form our preferences from experience.
I looked at machinery from a mechanics point of view. Most of you old sodbusters, ( no offence), from a hands on operating view.
Over my 50 year mechanical career I saw inside quite a variety of machinery & formed opinions of many products.
My choice between Allis Chalmers & IH is that AC are great for anchors (boats moorings).
The little AC farm tractors had a common problem of breaking in half at their skinny transmission section mid machine.
I managed the service dept of a large John Deere dealer for 10 years & gained a lot of respect for the JD brand. Still the only brand that has not been swallowed up by another failing product. eg. Ford/ New Holland, Fiat/ Allis, forget who took over Stieger, maybe IH. And even IH is owned by Fiat/ Iveco.
I must qualify all this in that my opinions are about the more modern machinery. The oldies like this Farmall & the old time machines were built with quality.
Not big in the ' Bells & Whistles ' department & not much better than the Horse, but less effort to operate & cheaper to feed.
When I see an old machine rusting under a tree, I just want to go & rub up against it like a cat against your leg. I love em.
I also admire the folks who restore them. I've seen a few sheds full of their collections. Fantastic!
Having been a mechanic all day, the last thing I'd want to do is come home & be a mechanic & restore one.
Enough waffling on.
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I am not trying to disagree with you I just never seen an alis broke in the middle. I have seen lot of oliver tractors broke in the housing between the transmission and the clutch housing. I had an h3 crawler and it kept blowing the cam and govner gears. You had to be an octupus to run it. It had 3 levers for the 6 way blade it had the left and right trac clutch levers one for the throtle a lever for the directional and a left and right foot brake and a clutch pedal.

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Mar 29, 2014 00:30:28   #
sailorsmom Loc: Souderton, PA
 
Good shots, Earl! I've taken a few shots of old tractors around here, too. They just seem to call, "Shoot me!". LOL

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Mar 29, 2014 16:18:06   #
peteaaa Loc: weiser, Idaho
 
wonkytripod wrote:
Think she will need a little WD40 to get her moving again.


Wonk can you buy wd40 by the 55gallon drum for that one it might just take it.

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Mar 29, 2014 16:29:06   #
peteaaa Loc: weiser, Idaho
 
sailorsmom wrote:
Good shots, Earl! I've taken a few shots of old tractors around here, too. They just seem to call, "Shoot me!". LOL

Boy I don't know how to take this poor old thing is setting out there been rode and worked to death and here you say it is saying shoot me shoot me. I say you are right and I enjoy shooting them to. Walk up and kick a tire (becareful of the ones with steel wheels) let them know you are proud of their efforts toward helping making this great country what it is today.

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Mar 29, 2014 16:41:36   #
DOOK Loc: Maclean, Australia
 
This is another 'thank you'...Thank y'all. I never thought a rusty old tractor would get so many comments. :-) :-)

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Mar 30, 2014 01:01:28   #
peteaaa Loc: weiser, Idaho
 
DOOK wrote:
This is another 'thank you'...Thank y'all. I never thought a rusty old tractor would get so many comments. :-) :-)

Dook good job you recorded a bit of history there and a very nice shot.

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Mar 30, 2014 08:48:41   #
countryman60951 Loc: Bourbonnais, Il
 
DOOK wrote:
This is another 'thank you'...Thank y'all. I never thought a rusty old tractor would get so many comments. :-) :-)


Maybe it's because these old tractors hold fond memories to a lot of us. They do to me and your picture of this old Farmall A had caused me to join you all here on UHH. I have some pictures of than old A taken a few years ago on a trip to Michigan and will post as soon as I can locate.

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Mar 30, 2014 10:01:52   #
Bunko.T Loc: Western Australia.
 
peteaaa wrote:
I am not trying to disagree with you I just never seen an alis broke in the middle. I have seen lot of oliver tractors broke in the housing between the transmission and the clutch housing. I had an h3 crawler and it kept blowing the cam and govner gears. You had to be an octupus to run it. It had 3 levers for the 6 way blade it had the left and right trac clutch levers one for the throtle a lever for the directional and a left and right foot brake and a clutch pedal.


Hey Pete, no problems with me. I have seen a couple but heard of a few broken little ACs. They had a skinny bit in the middle between the clutch housing & the trans.
Typical of the farming fraternity, they buy the cheapest machine & try to get it to do the work of a D9. Little wonder some of them break.
Your Crawler sounds like fun to operate, you'd be as busy as a 1 legged frog in a snake pit.

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Mar 30, 2014 21:23:04   #
peteaaa Loc: weiser, Idaho
 
Bunko.T wrote:
Hey Pete, no problems with me. I have seen a couple but heard of a few broken little ACs. They had a skinny bit in the middle between the clutch housing & the trans.
Typical of the farming fraternity, they buy the cheapest machine & try to get it to do the work of a D9. Little wonder some of them break.
Your Crawler sounds like fun to operate, you'd be as busy as a 1 legged frog in a snake pit.
yea they have tried to get more out of the small ones than they were made go give for sure. At one time I had a ac model B crank start it was a good little tractor but I know what you are saying. That casting is very small for sure. I think JD was the first to put all controls for a 6 way blade on one lever sure made a difference.
I was disking one time with a JD 720 deisel in 4th gear and was throtling back to make a turn at a canal. The guy I was working for didn't want me to throtle back so I tried it and the power steering locked up tight. I was use to a foot clutch so when I went for the foot clutch I stepped on the left brake and when I realized what was happening I jerked the hand clutch back. When had every thing stopped. The left front wheel was right on the edge of the canal and the right rear tire was on the edge the right front was dangling out over the canal. I put in reverse backed up got all four wheels back on ground. I suggested that I would drive my way or he could get some one to drive it his way.

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Apr 1, 2014 05:01:02   #
peteaaa Loc: weiser, Idaho
 
Bunko.T wrote:
Hey Pete, no problems with me. I have seen a couple but heard of a few broken little ACs. They had a skinny bit in the middle between the clutch housing & the trans.
Typical of the farming fraternity, they buy the cheapest machine & try to get it to do the work of a D9. Little wonder some of them break.
Your Crawler sounds like fun to operate, you'd be as busy as a 1 legged frog in a snake pit.

When I was a kid worked for a guy that had I believe it was a JD Model D one of the old steel wheel ones and I use to drive it for him. IT started on gas and then ran on stove oil. It had to pet cocks to release the comprestion and then you would spin the the big flywheel on the side when it started you closed the pet cocks. It was an amazing tractor.

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