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Mar 26, 2014 12:50:04   #
TheDman Loc: USA
 
wj cody wrote:
MS computer science


On punch cards.

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Mar 26, 2014 12:54:34   #
Mark7829 Loc: Calfornia
 
wj cody wrote:
MS computer science


MS - it means crap. It does not mean you are smarter or better than anyone else. It only means you have completed a course of study. Take it any further and you are not only incredibly arrogant but wrong. Says me, MPA/PhD

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Mar 26, 2014 13:46:31   #
skooters Loc: Flagstaff, Arizona
 
DavidPine wrote:
I am a newbie and I absolutely love UHH and its members. I have asked and received tremendous help and encouragement from across the globe. I don't like to get beat up but I love the directness because I take it for what it is and not personally.I continue to learn daily and I can see the results and that is worth the trip. I don't have a problem with anything I have been told or the manner in which it was delivered. It is all appreciated.


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Mar 26, 2014 14:48:16   #
wlgoode Loc: Globe, AZ
 
GreenReaper wrote:
Is it just me or is there a general lack of "basic knowledge" of photography and how everything works together to produce the photograph one desires? We seem to have forgotten or forgotten to pass this basic info to newbies. We (the old farts) need to explain simply about the interdependence of ISO, shutter speed and f/stops, not in some esoteric, hard to understand way, but simply. If you do this then you need to do this, depending on your desired out come. How does a higher ISO effect things, what about a slower shutter speed and a larger f/stop number? When is it ok to not use a tripod and when is a tripod vital tog eating the shot. How does lens length effect your shot what is key stoning and how can you prevent it or at least minimize it. And the list goes on and on. I know there is help here on the UHH site and thats great, let's keep it rolling.
Keep smiling and keep shooting :)
Is it just me or is there a general lack of "... (show quote)


A wealth of knowledge in these links:

http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/

http://digital-photography-school.com/

Also go to YouTube and subscribe to Adorama viedeos

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Mar 26, 2014 14:54:19   #
HarryBinNC Loc: Blue Ridge Mtns, No.Carolina, USA
 
Mark7829 wrote:
MS - it means crap. It does not mean you are smarter or better than anyone else. It only means you have completed a course of study. Take it any further and you are not only incredibly arrogant but wrong. Says me, MPA/PhD


Your comment reminded me of a line I heard from a street performer (a comedian/social commentator) in SF. He was talking about people who go out of the way to use graduate degree abbreviations after their names. It went something like this: "Well, we all know what B.S. means, right? Then you have the M.S. (More of the Same) and after that the PHD (Piled Higher and Deeper)! It comes to mind every time someone throws their academic status into a discussion thinking (hoping?) that will somehow give them the edge they need to shut down people who don't agree with them.

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Mar 26, 2014 15:21:40   #
photon56 Loc: North America
 
Education starts here. 'Nough said.

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Mar 26, 2014 15:27:39   #
edangs Loc: Orange, California
 
GreenReaper wrote:
Is it just me or is there a general lack of "basic knowledge" of photography and how everything works together to produce the photograph one desires? We seem to have forgotten or forgotten to pass this basic info to newbies. We (the old farts) need to explain simply about the interdependence of ISO, shutter speed and f/stops, not in some esoteric, hard to understand way, but simply. If you do this then you need to do this, depending on your desired out come. How does a higher ISO effect things, what about a slower shutter speed and a larger f/stop number? When is it ok to not use a tripod and when is a tripod vital tog eating the shot. How does lens length effect your shot what is key stoning and how can you prevent it or at least minimize it. And the list goes on and on. I know there is help here on the UHH site and thats great, let's keep it rolling.
Keep smiling and keep shooting :)
Is it just me or is there a general lack of "... (show quote)



This simple "chart" may be helpful? may be used to send to those inquiring about the very basic relationship between diaphragm/aperture, shutter speed and light sensibility?
This is only my opinion related to what i understood from the OP post...Ed

Simply basics
Attached file:
(Download)

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Mar 26, 2014 15:36:46   #
SharpShooter Loc: NorCal
 
HarryBinNC wrote:
Your comment reminded me of a line I heard from a street performer (a comedian/social commentator) in SF. He was talking about people who go out of the way to use graduate degree abbreviations after their names. It went something like this: "Well, we all know what B.S. means, right? Then you have the M.S. (More of the Same) and after that the PHD (Piled Higher and Deeper)! It comes to mind every time someone throws their academic status into a discussion thinking (hoping?) that will somehow give them the edge they need to shut down people who don't agree with them.
Your comment reminded me of a line I heard from a ... (show quote)


Harry, even worse, I attended all public schools!!
But, I have a Ph.D, from the university of hard knocks!! :lol:
SS

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Mar 26, 2014 16:22:16   #
smcaleer Loc: Dearborn Heights, Michigan
 
SonyA580 wrote:
I agree. Some of the questions asked tell you right away the poster knows practically nothing about DOF, exposure and the relationship between speed and aperture. That's OK, you have to start somewhere but, maybe we should have a "beginners forum" specifically for those just starting out.


I think a beginners forum is a great idea. I do know a little about the "basics", but have taught myself, so I'm sure there are plenty of "basics" I don't even know about.

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Mar 26, 2014 16:38:58   #
wlgoode Loc: Globe, AZ
 
smcaleer wrote:
I think a beginners forum is a great idea. I do know a little about the "basics", but have taught myself, so I'm sure there are plenty of "basics" I don't even know about.


I like the idea of a beginner's forum however for the education purposes it would need to be frequented by some old hands.

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Mar 26, 2014 17:06:49   #
Alan1729 Loc: England UK, now New York State.
 
lightchime wrote:
And I agree with you by at least 100%. I believe in asking questions, but I also believe in someone finding his own answers. I believe in a bit more self reliance and dealing with others after you have tried. I am not suggesting reinventing an automobile, but it can be helpful to invent a few of your own wheels - at least in giving it a few tries.

There is a better chance of your seeds sprouting if there is some fertility in the ground.


I used to pickup practical photography magazine from the news stand when I had my first camera. No excuse they're on the web now http://www.photoanswers.co.uk/Photography-Magazines/Practical-Photography-Magazine/

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Mar 26, 2014 17:08:55   #
kenArchi Loc: Seal Beach, CA
 
It took me years as an amateur and could never understand, and I studied electronics engineering!
Then I turned pro, ooh boy! Those first shots did not look like what you see in magazines as I would expect they would.

Turning pro was when I finally got it. You learn quickly! You are on the line and you must perform.

Plus from all you guys here. Thank you all!

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Mar 26, 2014 17:09:11   #
SharpShooter Loc: NorCal
 
wlgoode wrote:
I like the idea of a beginner's forum however for the education purposes it would need to be frequented by some old hands.


I think that's what we have here already, isn't it?! :lol:
SS

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Mar 26, 2014 17:58:29   #
wlgoode Loc: Globe, AZ
 
SharpShooter wrote:
I think that's what we have here already, isn't it?! :lol:
SS


Yes we do but I've very often read a newbie's post beginning with something like: "I've belonged to UHH for a few weeks and this is the first time I've posted." Then comes a basic question. So somehow the beginner's are intimidated, at least for a while, by the old hands, not on purpose but I think most of us can relate. This tells me that UHH should be more welcoming to newbies.

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Mar 26, 2014 18:22:14   #
Mark7829 Loc: Calfornia
 
wlgoode wrote:
Yes we do but I've very often read a newbie's post beginning with something like: "I've belonged to UHH for a few weeks and this is the first time I've posted." Then comes a basic question. So somehow the beginner's are intimidated, at least for a while, by the old hands, not on purpose but I think most of us can relate. This tells me that UHH should be more welcoming to newbies.


I am not sure if it is intimidation or just being insecure. The two are distinctly different. Feeling insecure can come from different places such as skill sets or just coming into a new forum or social media.

There are many more beginners in here than I thought. The questions are redundant and meaningless, are asked in such a general way, it can't be answered. And those that are answered are often from a very narrow and personal perspective.

I am not sure this is where I need to me.

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