How Much Differernce Questions (Page 3): ============================= I totally agree with this.... YOU are a photographer - YOU have Your Own style

James R. Kyle Loc: Saint Louis, Missouri (A Suburb of Ferguson)

Joecosentino wrote:

Shoot your style, get a lens that shoots wide and ... (show quote)

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I totally agree with this....

YOU are a photographer - YOU have Your Own style - YOU are an artist... So Be YOU.

There was a very young musician who "copied" all the different styles of a lot of the most popular trumpet players. His father, a dentist in East St. Louis, IL, told him one day to stop trying to Be any one else.... "Miles - Just BE MILES".... So Miles Davis took his father's advice...

As with ANY art form - We need to be who WE are - to Project what Each and every one of us can - And in the style that only each of us can do. I make photographs to please ME ... If someone else likes it... ALL the better, and IF they purchase one or two, GREAT.

Being in Yosemite can be a bit overwhelming at first. When I go there - I get up B4 dawn - get the morning's light. And then in the coffee shop by about 10:00 a.m. Just in time to see all the others running madly about getting their day going. Then about 4:00 p.m. I am back out again. Between the hours of 12:00 and 3:00 p.m. I am reading maps plotting my next move. And generally "Taking IT All In". And I like to Write Things Down - so I write about my feelings of what I am Seeing so as to better make my composition MINE.

I KNOW for a FACT Than Ansel Adams in his teachings of photography at Yosemite Never Intended to "Make Copies" if himself to others... He wanted You to Be YOU. He simply gave instructions as to How to Operate a Camera, do some composition pointers, and have a good time doing it... Ansel was a very gregarious and generous guy. BUT he would not want "Copies of himself" out there running around.. He wished only to help.

That is what You should do.....

Just Be You.

HEY!!!! That is good enough for me ;-)

RCheal Loc: Brandon, FL USA

If you want to take landscapes you might consider using the EFS 10-22 mm Canon lens. On your camera (1.6 crop factor) that will be equivalent to 16 - 35 mm approximately. I have that lens and it is really good when you want to go wide.

Richard

myts10 Loc: SE Ohio

I have done this many times, not in Yosemite, but around town. It can be anything, a building, a tree, something that I can find and try to duplicate. I saw a picture of a dandelion in a magazine and thought, I can do that. Took awhile but I got it. I have no idea what was used to take the magazine photo, but I duplicated the shot with my point and shoot.
I learned a lot doing those experiments. The angle, in camera cropping, distance from subject to lens, direction of light, getting the best possible performance with the camera I have.
So yes, try to duplicate the shots. And learn about your skills and your equipment.
Gary

zuzanne Loc: Crawfordville, FL

I have the Tokina 11-16MM lens, the Sigma 18-250MM lens and the Sigma 150-500MM lens. I will be taking all three. I know that my shots will not even be close to those in the book. I am after all a very basic beginner with photography. I am just trying to learn from practicing, books and UHH how to get the best shots I can get with my equipment.

zuzanne

jeep_daddy Loc: Prescott AZ

zuzanne wrote:

I have the Tokina 11-16MM lens, the Sigma 18-250MM lens and the Sigma 150-500MM lens. I will be taking all three. I know that my shots will not even be close to those in the book. I am after all a very basic beginner with photography. I am just trying to learn from practicing, books and UHH how to get the best shots I can get with my equipment.

zuzanne

In other words, please tell us what size lens was used by the author you are trying to copy and we can instruct you on exactly which focal length lens you should use if you are standing in exactly the same spot as the author.

MT Shooter wrote:

Your images will look like you used a 60% longer focal length lens if you use the exact same lenses on your crop sensor camera. If he took a shot with a 100mm focal length lens, and you use the same 100mm focal length, then it will look as if you used a 160mm lens. You would need to use about a 62mm lens to get the same field of view as he got with his full frame body and 100mm lens. And that's providing his printed images were printed right as they came out of the camera.

Sloaner Loc: Dayton Ohio

Agree Cap. Your advice makes sense but my learning is not keeping pace with my mistakes.

CaptainC wrote:

IMO, this is silly. You will be there on a different day, different TIME of day, different season, different light. Just thinking if you use the same "settings" you will get the same (or even close) images just won't work. Well, there's always luck.
Learn YOUR camera. Meter YOUR scene. Make mistakes - fix those mistakes -learn from that mistake.

However, getting tips on locations is great.

zuzanne Loc: Crawfordville, FL

He was using a 24-105 Canon L lens.

zuzanne

terry44 Loc: Tuolumne County California, Maui Hawaii

also use your viewfinder create shots that are your own, what you see in someone else's work should be your guide to creating your own unique work. Yosemite is a special place soak it in and enjoy it.

MT Shooter wrote:

Your images will look like you used a 60% longer focal length lens if you use the exact same lenses on your crop sensor camera. If he took a shot with a 100mm focal length lens, and you use the same 100mm focal length, then it will look as if you used a 160mm lens. You would need to use about a 62mm lens to get the same field of view as he got with his full frame body and 100mm lens. And that's providing his printed images were printed right as they came out of the camera.

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Whuff Loc: Marshalltown, Iowa

CaptainC wrote:

IMO, this is silly. You will be there on a different day, different TIME of day, different season, different light. Just thinking if you use the same "settings" you will get the same (or even close) images just won't work. Well, there's always luck.
Learn YOUR camera. Meter YOUR scene. Make mistakes - fix those mistakes -learn from that mistake.

However, getting tips on locations is great.

I was thinking the same thing.
Walt

Whuff Loc: Marshalltown, Iowa

Zuzanne, I see you've been a member here for a couple of years. By now I'm sure you have a good working knowledge of the basics of photography. The lenses you list are very good lenses. You should be able to get both close up and wide angle shots that will be amazing. A good PP program will be able to alter any shots you get that are a bit off, as long as what you want to shoot is in focus. As long as you think creatively, you should have no trouble getting great photos. Good luck and have fun.
PS - someone else gave a great tip about taking it all in and enjoying the moment.
Walt

G Brown Loc: Sunny Bognor Regis West Sussex UK

If I might suggest - you get in your camera what you see in the view finder....if it isn't enough take 9 shots like a 0 & X board and use a panorama post processer to stitch a larger composit which you can then crop to match what you are looking for. on a landscape there is little distortion to worry about and you can probably overlap each shot by 1/3rd. More important to use a tripod than worry about sensor size bearing in mind what others have said about conditions time season etc
copying may be the sincerest form of flattery, but taking the book along seems a little like plaguarism to me.....

OonlyBonly

zuzanne wrote:

Thank you all for the input. I realize that I will be shooting different times of day, seasons etc. And I probably did not word my question properly. What I want to know is, how much info will be lost using a crop camera versus a full frame camera if I'm using the same lenses and settings.

The book is Photographing Yosemite by Lewis Kemper.

zuzanne

http://digital-photography-school.com/full-frame-sensor-vs-crop-sensor-which-is-right-for-you
Will give you one photograph with Full frame, 1.3 and 1.6 crop sensor views.

jlrivera Loc: Round Lake, Illinois

MT Shooter wrote:

You worded it fine. Thats why I addressed the issue in my response. Have a fun time.

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the hiker Loc: San Diego

Zuzanne another great book you might check out before you go to Yosemite is Photosecrets San Francisco & Northern California by Andrew Hudson.It is a great book for the entire area around Yosemite.The price is $17.00 new probley about $10.00 used on Amoson.it covers everything you would want to know about taking pictures in Yosemite.And the best part of using a Digital camera is you can shoot the scene as many times as you like until you get the picture you want.Have a great trip its a beautiful place.

jeep_daddy Loc: Prescott AZ

zuzanne wrote:

He was using a 24-105 Canon L lens.

zuzanne

That would be an equivalent of 15mm to 65mm zoom. He probably took those images at the lower power i.e. 24mm so you'd need a lens as close to 15mm as possible. You'd probably be ok with your 18-55 at the 18mm focal length but if you really want a lens that does a fine job that is wide enough you should invest in a Canon 10-22 lens. This is very wide on a crop sensor body and is great for landscape photography. Good luck and happy shooting.

PS - I may be willing to sell mine. I just got a new wide angle lens for my 5D mark III body that is the equivalent to the 10-22 on a crop sensor body. So I'll probably be selling my 7D body and my EF-s 10-22mm lens.