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Mar 22, 2014 16:17:29   #
Bill gomberg
 
Alois wrote:
The new version of 18-35 nice and sharp.


Wide enough and low distortion ?
Seriously consider renting first . OR ...shooting some frames in the store before deciding ,

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Mar 22, 2014 16:30:03   #
G Brown Loc: Sunny Bognor Regis West Sussex UK
 
May be cheaper to buy a sony camera with the auto panorama feature. it uses the video as you pan and then 'creates' a single Jpeg. one slow sweep and the panorama is done in camera. The rest of its feayures make it a great Dslr too...

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Mar 22, 2014 17:47:51   #
Bill gomberg
 
G Brown wrote:
May be cheaper to buy a sony camera with the auto panorama feature. it uses the video as you pan and then 'creates' a single Jpeg. one slow sweep and the panorama is done in camera. The rest of its feayures make it a great Dslr too...


Very interesting .

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Mar 22, 2014 19:01:12   #
jimbo1 Loc: San Diego, Ca.
 
daddybear wrote:
I just purchased an 11-16 Tokina. Obviously have not used it very long but so far a spectacular lens.


Daddybear


What camera do you have, I just read you have to have a auto focus motor in the camera. My d5300 does NOT

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Mar 22, 2014 19:09:16   #
jimbo1 Loc: San Diego, Ca.
 
daddybear wrote:
I just purchased an 11-16 Tokina. Obviously have not used it very long but so far a spectacular lens.


Daddybear


I looked up that lens and it says you need a auto focus motor in your camera and my D5300 does NOT.

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Mar 22, 2014 19:10:40   #
jimbo1 Loc: San Diego, Ca.
 
Bill gomberg wrote:
Very interesting .


My old camera had that feature maybe it was not so bad after all !

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Mar 22, 2014 19:12:07   #
jimbo1 Loc: San Diego, Ca.
 
G Brown wrote:
May be cheaper to buy a sony camera with the auto panorama feature. it uses the video as you pan and then 'creates' a single Jpeg. one slow sweep and the panorama is done in camera. The rest of its feayures make it a great Dslr too...


My old camera had that feature, maybe it was not such a bad camera after all!

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Mar 22, 2014 21:41:07   #
gnawbone Loc: Southern Indiana
 
David Kay wrote:
By doing this he will need to close down his aperture to around f11 or so to keep everyone in focus. His best bet is the Nikon 12-24 or the tokina 12-24. This way he wont have to pump more light into the scene to offset the closed aperture. Yes he could push up the ISO but then with one flash he will start getting to the noise problem if he pushes it too high.

The 12-24 is more of a rectilinear lens so distortion is at a minimum. Not like a fish eye lens at all.


You are correct about the 12-24. I just got one Monday (Tokina) and I'm quite surprised at the lack of distortion. The rep at Roberts Camera (Indy) and I took a lot of pictures with both the Nikon and Tokina and I couldn't tell any difference - both are great lenses but they are also $300 difference in price! :) The Tokina is very solid with great images - and as you said - distortion is not an issue with either lens.

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Mar 22, 2014 21:46:44   #
amehta Loc: Boston
 
jimbo1 wrote:
I looked up that lens and it says you need a auto focus motor in your camera and my D5300 does NOT.

The "Tokina AT-X 116 PRO DX-II 11-16mm f/2.8" has an AF motor.

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Mar 22, 2014 22:43:04   #
jimbo1 Loc: San Diego, Ca.
 
amehta wrote:
The "Tokina AT-X 116 PRO DX-II 11-16mm f/2.8" has an AF motor.


Thanks I think I was looking at the old 12-24

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Mar 23, 2014 23:41:57   #
0627ramram32 Loc: Orange County, CA, USA
 
Heres the one I put my money on, and I'm very happy with it:
Sigma 10-20mm f/3.5 EX DC HSM at B&H Photo; no tax, no shipping.

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Mar 24, 2014 01:42:42   #
rocketride Loc: Upstate NY
 
DavidPine wrote:
One thing you might consider is renting a lens for this shot. You may even have a photography store in your area that rents lenses by the day. I am planning to rent a 14-24 f2.8 to take with me on a trip.


I think you have the terms "telephoto" and "zoom" confused.

Any lens that can vary its focal length, and therefore its angle of view, is a "zoom" lens.

Informally, any lens whose angle of view is substantially less than about 40 degrees is a "telephoto" lens.
(Formally, that would be a long-focus lens. An actual telephoto lens also has to be physically shorter than its focal length.)

A wide angle lens is a lens with a angle of view larger than about 60 degrees.

Any lens you use to get all of those people into the frame is going to make each one look pretty small. They'll look even smaller, though, if you have too much space around them in the frame. But what you want is clearly some sort of wide-angle lens.

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Mar 24, 2014 01:45:37   #
rocketride Loc: Upstate NY
 
0627ramram32 wrote:
Heres the one I put my money on, and I'm very happy with it:
Sigma 10-20mm f/3.5 EX DC HSM at B&H Photo; no tax, no shipping.


Nice lens. I'm using a Sigma 10-20 f/4-5.6. I like it a lot. And haven't really seen any reason to get the newer version.

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Mar 24, 2014 13:29:01   #
romanticf16 Loc: Commerce Twp, MI
 
jimbo1 wrote:
The problem is the rooms very in size and if I get far enough back than everyone looks to small. So I was hoping for something that would get me close enough but still be wide enough to get the whole group. Size wise we are looking at about 10 people wide and four rows deeps


Part of it will have to be in your posing: the first row will have to be sitting or kneeling, the next standing closely behind them, then taller people behind them, etc. Use MANUAL FOCUS and focus on the second row from the front. Use an aperture of f8 or f11, preferably with the camera on a sturdy tripod. With a group of 40 people the quality with your camera will not match that of a full frame DSLR or a medium format film camera.

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Mar 24, 2014 14:01:19   #
GPoyner Loc: North Dakota
 
jimbo1 wrote:
I just wanted to add one thing that I do not believe anyone understands. These are all quick shots taken during the performance."musical group"
I have no time to pose the group, unable to move them around. This would get me killed by the director. So for that reason I still think a wide angle lens would be the best. Just a FYI no need for a reply.
I think at this point the best thing is for me to THINK about what would work the best. But being the ROOKIE that I am a wide angle lens would be the best quick fix. All the other suggestions I need to learn.
Thanks again for all of your ideas and I will set up a file with them for a later date when I am a little past the rookie stage.
Jimbo1
I just wanted to add one thing that I do not belie... (show quote)


So if I understand you correctly, you are taking photos during a performance. You say musical, so is this choir of some sort or are the performers moving around and singing (as in a musical play)?

I take it that they may be on a stag and you will be on the floor - so where are you standing to take these pictures?

How is the lighting for the performances? All lights on? Stage lights only? Spot lights?

I ask, since this may affect what you need and your technique of shooting....thanks GP

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