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Mar 18, 2014 16:08:38   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
How many planes do you think have been lost in the Bermuda Triangle since 1948? I was amazed at the figure. See it in the infographic below, along with other interesting information. I guess the missing Malaysian flight prompter Bloomberg to produce this infographic. Pressing Ctrl+ will make it large enough to read.



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Mar 18, 2014 16:32:23   #
braindamage Loc: Appley Bridge, Lancs, U.K.
 
Hi Jerry is there a Mac alternative to enlarge?

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Mar 18, 2014 16:36:15   #
ecobin Loc: Paoli, PA
 
braindamage wrote:
Hi Jerry is there a Mac alternative to enlarge?


Drag the photo to your desktop and open in Preview or your PP program.

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Mar 18, 2014 17:09:11   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
ecobin wrote:
Drag the photo to your desktop and open in Preview or your PP program.

I use Irfanview, and enlarge it with that. Still, the text isn't very sharp. Are you using a Mac? Dragging to the Desktop seems to be a Mac thing.

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Mar 18, 2014 17:26:53   #
ecobin Loc: Paoli, PA
 
jerryc41 wrote:
I use Irfanview, and enlarge it with that. Still, the text isn't very sharp. Are you using a Mac? Dragging to the Desktop seems to be a Mac thing.


I'm on a PC at work but use an iMac at home. I'll have to try Irfanview.

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Mar 18, 2014 17:37:38   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
ecobin wrote:
I'm on a PC at work but use an iMac at home. I'll have to try Irfanview.

When you download it, get the extensions at the same time. Then, when you have an image on the screen, you can press I and E to get more info about it and the camera, including shutter count. The name of the program comes from its developer, named Irfan.

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Mar 19, 2014 07:56:14   #
Chief Rob
 
Mac screen enlargements. Use command - shift - + to enlarge the screen shot and image. I am using Mac Operating system OSX 10.9.2 currently but in past OS versions this also works.

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Mar 20, 2014 11:45:34   #
jerrylh Loc: Texas
 
When I was a military pilot, I was attached to air-sea rescue to hunt for airplanes that were missing in the mountains from Cheyenne Wy to Farmington NM and back to Ogden UT. I kept a map of all the wrecks in this area. When I got out of the military after 4 years, I had 138 wrecks marked on this map. Of all the ones we looked for, all but 2 were found in a few days. One that was not found for 6 months hit a mountain wall at around 13,000 feet and the plane fell into a deep snow drift to be found by a rancher when the snow melted. The other crashed in the Oregon-Washington area and was never found. They thought it went into some lake. We only found 2 people alive in all the crashes. We did find one airplane that had been missing for many years in a deep wilderness and the remains of the pilot was still there.

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Mar 20, 2014 14:12:59   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
jerrylh wrote:
When I was a military pilot, I was attached to air-sea rescue to hunt for airplanes that were missing in the mountains from Cheyenne Wy to Farmington NM and back to Ogden UT. I kept a map of all the wrecks in this area. When I got out of the military after 4 years, I had 138 wrecks marked on this map. Of all the ones we looked for, all but 2 were found in a few days. One that was not found for 6 months hit a mountain wall at around 13,000 feet and the plane fell into a deep snow drift to be found by a rancher when the snow melted. The other crashed in the Oregon-Washington area and was never found. They thought it went into some lake. We only found 2 people alive in all the crashes. We did find one airplane that had been missing for many years in a deep wilderness and the remains of the pilot was still there.
When I was a military pilot, I was attached to air... (show quote)

That must have been a depressing job.

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Mar 20, 2014 15:33:44   #
jerrylh Loc: Texas
 
It was not depressing, but challenging and tiring. We sometimes flew many hours in a day, often at higher altitudes than usual. Always slept good after we finished for the day. I think the longest time I was out on one airplane was 4-5 days. Most were a day or 2. Sometimes we could find the wreck quickly based on reports from the public or a last call by the aircraft pilot.

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Mar 20, 2014 15:57:21   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
jerrylh wrote:
It was not depressing, but challenging and tiring. We sometimes flew many hours in a day, often at higher altitudes than usual. Always slept good after we finished for the day. I think the longest time I was out on one airplane was 4-5 days. Most were a day or 2. Sometimes we could find the wreck quickly based on reports from the public or a last call by the aircraft pilot.

What kinds of planes? Military, private, commercial, large, small - "All of the above"?

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Mar 20, 2014 16:16:15   #
Harvey Loc: Pioneer, CA
 
In the 60's & 70's I did some ground search & rescue in the Sierras around Lake Tahoe - when a small plane goes down in the forest some times it gets so mixed with the trees & brush they just can't be seen from the air. It takes full concentration of a trained person to spot them at times.
The crash a couple years ago of the millionaire near Mammoth Ski Area is an example of total destruction with very little visible wreckage, it was found because a hiker found some of the pilots personal affects a year or two latter.

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Mar 20, 2014 19:25:34   #
jerrylh Loc: Texas
 
About 70% were small private planes that should not have attempted to fly in the mountains. About 15% were military multi-engine or jets. And about 15% were commercial planes, usually twin-engine taking people hunting, skiing or fishing. No helicopters because there were no private helicopters that could fly in the mountains at that time which was 1956-1959. Some of the wrecks were caused by hypoxia, from flying too high in attempts to get over the mountains.
I just noticed on the evening news that someone finally considered what I think happened to flight 370. I believe they had a sudden decompression of the airplane and the pilots oxygen system also failed. If this is correct, all people would have passed out within 40 seconds. I think the pilot realized what was happening and tried to dial in a heading on the autopilot that would take them back to the originating base, but passed out before he could get it finished. When decompression happens, there is a heavy fog that fills the airplane and it would have been difficult to see the instruments. This has happened before and recently happened to a private jet that was taking some golfers someplace. They sent several planes up to look at this one and saw the pilots slumped in their seats. It flew till it ran out of fuel and came down in a field.

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