pounder35 Loc: "Southeast of Disorder"

larrypayne it's scary but I may have to agree with on this theory. I don't believe Bin Laden was"buried at sea". Too convenient with the need to "bury" the body within a day according to Muslim tradition. But I don't see a reason to keep him alive at this point. He's probably in Hell by now (if Hell exists) but not in the time frame we were led to believe. :thumbup:

TimS Loc: GA

There is a wiki page on the guy. Read it.

As far as which side the plane hit, does it really matter which side was hit? What if any other portion was hit - is there a conspiracy theory that couldn't be contrived? I say no. If any other side was hit, the theory why would just be different. People would look at who was in that area and come up with some cocamany theory as to why that side was hit - as if the terrorists had detailed building and occupancy plans.

For example, if the side that you wonder why was not hit - where the "top brass" sit - imagine for a minute that it WAS hit. What theory could we come up with as to why THAT side was bit and not, oh I dunno, the West side (you know, the one that really was hit in reality). I could theorize that the top brass were against a war in Iraq/afghan so others in the govt targeted them so they could be replaced by ones that did support a war. You see, if that had happened then they would have needed to be replaced...the war would've still happened...and the theory I just came up with in a matter of a seconds would've been "validated." The question would e then been - why were the top brass replaced so quickly just before we went to war? Why was t the west side destroyed which was filled with accountants who had no say so over the decision on whether to go to war or not?

You see. This is all so very silly.

sonny7145 Loc: colorado

So if a plane did not really crash into the Pentagon, where did the plane of that flight number and its passengers actually go? The moon?

Los-Angeles-Shooter Loc: Los Angeles

I will address the question of the jet being flown in a manner not normally done in routine flying. The fact is that even the biggest jets are capable of extreme maneuvers including steep descending turns, steep turns, even chandelles (a diminishing speed climbing turn). The jets are flown in a tame manner to avoid terrifying passengers with things like steeper turns ... which are routine by pilot standards. For example, the big jets seldom turn at more than 1/2 "standard rate.

When the 747 first came out, many "experts" were afraid that it would be unmaneuvarable and hard to control. To impress the aviation community and shut up the skeptics, Boeing had a pilot do AEROBATIC maneuvers in front of an airshow crowd.

LarryPayne makes much of the fact that purported sources claim that purportedly the jet made unusual maneuvers before hitting the Pentagon. These maneuvers, nothing more than purportedly extra steep turns and extra steep descent, are well within the airplane's capability and well within a terrorist pilots capability.

It isn't even that hard to do. Fire up a good flight simulator program and try it out.

larrypayne Loc: Texas Hill Country

You show all the characteristics of a troll. Probably a Zionist troll. No, I am not anti-Jewish (anti-Semitic is a word made up by Zionists and promoted as if the accused is worse than a child molester.) I voted for Jill Stein in the last presidential election and the only congressmen I trust are Bernie Sanders and Alan Grayson.

Please show me the video that shows the buildings burning just before and during their fall. Be advised, this is what a burning building looks like as it burns and after it has burned.

erbPIX Loc: Greater New York City area

That’s why the term military intelligence is an oxymoron.

larrypayne Loc: Texas Hill Country

It could have gone many places. To a remote airfield. To the deepest part of an ocean. Use your imagination.

larrypayne Loc: Texas Hill Country

The Wiki sentence that says Hanjour had a commercial flying license has a footnote that fails to back up that information. It is impossible he had one if he couldn't pass a flight test in a Cessna.

The accountants who were destroyed along with the records were trying to find that missing $2.3 trillion. I wonder how much it would cost to pull off the 9/11 false flag attacks?

You're not a very clever troll. They should think about replacing you.

amadjuster Loc: Amarillo, TX

The burning upper floors were shown in many videos. They are in the public domain. Your photos of the building on fire does not have the amount of jet fuel concentrated on a few floors. I also notice you totally failed to mention my eyewitness to the plane hitting Pentagon.

Your choice of candidates are either Communists or crazy.

Harvey Loc: Pioneer, CA

Ya - you liked that dog - and still have great memories of it - dog lovers can be trusted - well most of the time anyway.
I too like Jimmy Buffet - I spent many year in Margarita Vill walking that "

pop top beach" - Puerto Morelos,MX - Ojo De Aggua Hotel.[ quote=pounder35]Harvey, I have no disagreement with you on current topics but I swear I don't know what direction you're coming from. My avatar is my Yorkie-poodle mix who died a little over three years ago. I've thought of changing it but it's a tribute to the smartest little dog that has ever owned me. My location is a lyric from a song by Jimmy Buffett and it's all anyone needs to know. I disagree with his political leanings but like his music. Very relaxing around the pool with friends and the beer and wine flowing. :thumbup:[/quote]

venturer9 Loc: Newton, Il.

BURNING SKYSCRAPER..... a bit different than the one you show..

http://www.buzzfeed.com/gavon/12-terrifying-beautiful-photos-of-a-burning-skysc

Mike

Los-Angeles-Shooter Loc: Los Angeles

One of the many articles about the 'towers attacks mentioned that the fire was increased by the enormous amount of paper in those offices. In addition, the jets were all heavy with fuel.

TimS Loc: GA

I failed algebra yet I managed to get a degree n nuclear engineering. How? Easy. I failed algebra in 8th grade. When I retook it in 9th, I learned from a better teacher and I aced the class. I went on to ace algebra II, math analysis, calculus 1/2/3, differential equations, and then partial diff-eq.

I don't know the circumstances surrounding his failing a Cessna test or when but all that is irrelevant if he honed his skills and obtained a commercial pilot certificate.

On another note, you are obviously too stupid to know what a troll is. A troll is not somebody who had been a member of a forum for years who happens to call BS on such a stupid theory as this one. The. Again, if you are stupid enough to fall for this theory then I guess you are too stupid to see through the lies of the various 9/11 conspiracy theories.

larrypayne Loc: Texas Hill Country

Did that building collapse at free-fall speed?

boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander

With regard to those who say that burning jet fuel doesn't burn hot enough to melt steel here is absolute proof that it does. About 8 years ago there was a diesel truck that hit a bridge abuttment on I 95 in Connecticut. The tanker split and diesel fuel exploded and melted the steel on the bridge and the bridge collapsed as a result. Diesel fuel, kerosene and jetfuel are essentially the same. Look it up if you don't believe it.