Sounds to me like a few people need to take their cameras in hand and go make some decent photographs and stop arguing like a bunch of three year olds. I'm outta here because I'm learning NOTHING on this forum except how to make someone angry and I've been doing that since I was knee high to a grasshopper. No need for lessons like that here. You don't lke somethng, take your camera and go home, which is what I am doing. It's been fun ya'll, but this ain't got nothin' to do with photography. NOTHING!!!!!!

Sounds to me like a few people need to take their cameras in hand and go make some decent photographs and stop arguing like a bunch of three year olds. I'm outta here because I'm learning NOTHING on this forum except how to make someone angry and I've been doing that since I was knee high to a grasshopper. No need for lessons like that here. You don't lke somethng, take your camera and go home, which is what I am doing. It's been fun ya'll, but this ain't got nothin' to do with photography. NOTHING!!!!!!

It seems to me more and more photo enthusiasts are trying their hands at HDR and asking for comments. I've only commented to one individual and will refrain from doing so in the future as I believe most of these attempts at art are nothing short of disastrous. Good photos are turned into images worthy of nothing but the circular file. Out-of-focus photos are now stated to have been created using the Orton effect. Perhaps I'm an old stick in the mud but unless done properly HDR is a waste of everyone's time. By now you can see I am not a fan of HDR and am strongly in favor of natural photography. All that having been said and probably provoking many, I can support different art forms and believe expanding one's knowledge base is commendable but folks...HDR & Orton is not for me. What I'd like to see is a seperate section for HDR & Orton Effect added to this forum (like the macro section) so that when one opens a thread expecting to view realistic photos he/she is not confronted with cartoonish or garrish images. I'd like to know what others think about this and please don't nail me to the cross. I don't advocate not displaying the work of those that believe HDR & Orton are legitimite art forms, I would just like to have them in a collection where one can avoid them at will. Convince me I'm wrong...an old dog can learn new tricks but it may take a while.

It seems to me more and more photo enthusiasts are trying their hands at HDR and asking for comments. I've only commented to one individual and will refrain from doing so in the future as I believe most of these attempts at art are nothing short of disastrous. Good photos are turned into images worthy of nothing but the circular file. Out-of-focus photos are now stated to have been created using the Orton effect. Perhaps I'm an old stick in the mud but unless done properly HDR is a waste of everyone's time. By now you can see I am not a fan of HDR and am strongly in favor of natural photography. All that having been said and probably provoking many, I can support different art forms and believe expanding one's knowledge base is commendable but folks...HDR & Orton is not for me. What I'd like to see is a seperate section for HDR & Orton Effect added to this forum (like the macro section) so that when one opens a thread expecting to view realistic photos he/she is not confronted with cartoonish or garrish images. I'd like to know what others think about this and please don't nail me to the cross. I don't advocate not displaying the work of those that believe HDR & Orton are legitimite art forms, I would just like to have them in a collection where one can avoid them at will. Convince me I'm wrong...an old dog can learn new tricks but it may take a while.

So........if somebody takes a "landscape" photo with a dog in it......where should they post it. "Landscapes" or "dogs"? No doubt, in this forum, if it is put in landscapes, the landscapists will bitch about having to look at a dog. If it's put in the "dog" section, the dog lovers will bitch about having to look at landscapes.

Maybe we can have a category for "Landscapes", with a sub-category within for "landscapes with dogs", then another "landscapes with horses", then another for "landscapes with chicks in skimpy swim suits".........

Then there's the category for shots taken with ND filters (with a sub category for graduated ND filters). And another category for CPL filters.........and another for Nikons only with ND filters..........OMG!!!

Get my drift?!? Nobody is always going to be happy. We don't need a category for every single subject. That could be endless.


This takes me back to forum users complaining about having to look at boudoir images. Every single time the title of the post said something to the effect of what the subject was.

IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE SUBJECT......DON'T OPEN THE POST! It can't be any simpler then that people!!

It seems to me more and more photo enthusiasts are trying their hands at HDR and asking for comments. I've only commented to one individual and will refrain from doing so in the future as I believe most of these attempts at art are nothing short of disastrous. Good photos are turned into images worthy of nothing but the circular file. Out-of-focus photos are now stated to have been created using the Orton effect. Perhaps I'm an old stick in the mud but unless done properly HDR is a waste of everyone's time. By now you can see I am not a fan of HDR and am strongly in favor of natural photography. All that having been said and probably provoking many, I can support different art forms and believe expanding one's knowledge base is commendable but folks...HDR & Orton is not for me. What I'd like to see is a seperate section for HDR & Orton Effect added to this forum (like the macro section) so that when one opens a thread expecting to view realistic photos he/she is not confronted with cartoonish or garrish images. I'd like to know what others think about this and please don't nail me to the cross. I don't advocate not displaying the work of those that believe HDR & Orton are legitimite art forms, I would just like to have them in a collection where one can avoid them at will. Convince me I'm wrong...an old dog can learn new tricks but it may take a while.