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Feb 27, 2014 02:04:02   #
Wellhiem Loc: Sunny England.
 
Here in the UK, we have a thing going through parliament, that says that pre-nuptial agreements should be legally binding. I may be a little old fashioned, but I think that if you want to marry some-one, a big part of that is trust. If you can't trust some-one then go ahead and live together, but marriage is a commitment.

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Feb 27, 2014 04:06:34   #
magicray Loc: Tampa Bay, Florida
 
I wouldn't want to live with someone I didn't trust let alone marry them. Many get married for religious reasons, peer presure and social mores. If a couple can't or don't want to have children I can't see any reason for marriage other than they can file a joint tax return if it benefits their bottom line and take advantage of insurance and Social Security benefits. A legal contract should be drawn up similar to a prenup to protect both parties. Of course if I met a lady who was filthy rich with no chldren and one foot on a banana peel then marriage would be warranted. Divorce lawyers would lose out but that is a good thing.

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Feb 27, 2014 11:12:23   #
sarge69 Loc: Ft Myers, FL
 
Pre-nups are great when the groom is 85 and rich and the bride is 27 and a lap dancer at 'Wild Cats' and there are children involved don't you think ?

Sarge69

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Feb 27, 2014 11:24:11   #
Wellhiem Loc: Sunny England.
 
sarge69 wrote:
Pre-nups are great when the groom is 85 and rich and the bride is 27 and a lap dancer at 'Wild Cats' and there are children involved don't you think ?

Sarge69


Yeah but you don't have to marry her. Just keep paying her.

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Feb 27, 2014 11:45:50   #
sarge69 Loc: Ft Myers, FL
 
Keep paying her? What would be the tax deduction ? How do you identify those services ?

Sarge69

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Feb 27, 2014 12:11:25   #
Pepper Loc: Planet Earth Country USA
 
Wellhiem wrote:
Here in the UK, we have a thing going through parliament, that says that pre-nuptial agreements should be legally binding. I may be a little old fashioned, but I think that if you want to marry some-one, a big part of that is trust. If you can't trust some-one then go ahead and live together, but marriage is a commitment.


Commitment? Now I don't know about the UK but here in the states the word commitment should be removed from the dictionary as it has no meaning anymore whatsoever. LOL

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Feb 27, 2014 12:25:04   #
Popeye Loc: LifIno
 
Thank you

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Feb 28, 2014 07:31:56   #
OnTheFly Loc: Tennessee
 
Sad but so true Pepper.
Pepper wrote:
Commitment? Now I don't know about the UK but here in the states the word commitment should be removed from the dictionary as it has no meaning anymore whatsoever. LOL

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Feb 28, 2014 09:07:08   #
FutureLook Loc: Florida, USA
 
sarge69 wrote:
Pre-nups are great when the groom is 85 and rich and the bride is 27 and a lap dancer at 'Wild Cats' and there are children involved don't you think ?

Sarge69




:lol: :lol: :lol: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

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Feb 28, 2014 15:05:16   #
UP-2-IT Loc: RED STICK, LA
 
sarge69 wrote:
Pre-nups are great when the groom is 85 and rich and the bride is 27 and a lap dancer at 'Wild Cats' and there are children involved don't you think ?

Sarge69


Crap Sarge she wouldn't sign the darn thing. She is getting better tho, getting real good at signing that check each month! :shock:

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Mar 1, 2014 17:59:59   #
Carl 383 Loc: Southampton UK
 
Wellhiem wrote:
Here in the UK, we have a thing going through parliament, that says that pre-nuptial agreements should be legally binding. I may be a little old fashioned, but I think that if you want to marry some-one, a big part of that is trust. If you can't trust some-one then go ahead and live together, but marriage is a commitment.


Pre-nups mean nothing to my wife or to me - we are in it for the duration - till death do us part.
Starting with a pre-nup is laying the foundation to fail. If we run into difficulties we don't reach for the pre-nuptial agreement, we work through it and this attitude has served us well for over thirty years.

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Mar 2, 2014 01:10:14   #
venturer9 Loc: Newton, Il.
 
Carl 383 wrote:
Pre-nups mean nothing to my wife or to me - we are in it for the duration - till death do us part.
Starting with a pre-nup is laying the foundation to fail. If we run into difficulties we don't reach for the pre-nuptial agreement, we work through it and this attitude has served us well for over thirty years.


When my wife and I got married 55yrs 10 months ago, we didn't even know what a Pre-nup was...

But that many years and we have raised a nice family of 5 children, have 24 Grand/greatgrand children. Have traveled all over the USA on my Motorcycle, have attended multiple Out door Music Festivals, Out door plays as well as Indoor ones... We still hug and kiss and do a little "Feeble" groping once in a while and are looking forward to living the rest of our old age together.....

Whe we got married the preacher (a Lady Preacher) had us reply in kind to what she said.... In Sickness and in Health, In poverty and Wealth TIL DEATH DO US PART....

We Meant that.... it has guided our lives our whole married life... We have Never Slept Apart because of an argument, we have never left each other (ie going to work, etc.) with out kissing each other good by and we kiss each other hello... We holler at each other once in a while... but it lasts about 2 minutes, then we kiss and make up...

Todays vows sound something like this..

We intend to stay married, until such time as we decide we don't want to be.... Then we will get a divorce.... If he/she gets sick they are on their own... and he/she better be able to keep me in the way I wanna be kept...

It is a very sad situation.

In my opinion the POINT of marriage is that two people who love each other, make a commitment to be true to each other, to live with each other, to help each other and to spend our lives together...

I am sure some "Unmarried" couples might live that way and stay together ... but it seems a little doubtful to me..

I have two Grand Daughters who both have 2 illegitimate babies. One of them has been married 3 times and the other has been engaged 4 times... and they both are 27 years old... When asked about why... The answer is basically "WHY NOT"

again, a sad situation..

Mike

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Mar 2, 2014 08:53:45   #
Carl 383 Loc: Southampton UK
 
venturer9 wrote:
When my wife and I got married 55yrs 10 months ago, we didn't even know what a Pre-nup was...

But that many years and we have raised a nice family of 5 children, have 24 Grand/greatgrand children. Have traveled all over the USA on my Motorcycle, have attended multiple Out door Music Festivals, Out door plays as well as Indoor ones... We still hug and kiss and do a little "Feeble" groping once in a while and are looking forward to living the rest of our old age together.....

Whe we got married the preacher (a Lady Preacher) had us reply in kind to what she said.... In Sickness and in Health, In poverty and Wealth TIL DEATH DO US PART....

We Meant that.... it has guided our lives our whole married life... We have Never Slept Apart because of an argument, we have never left each other (ie going to work, etc.) with out kissing each other good by and we kiss each other hello... We holler at each other once in a while... but it lasts about 2 minutes, then we kiss and make up...

Todays vows sound something like this..

We intend to stay married, until such time as we decide we don't want to be.... Then we will get a divorce.... If he/she gets sick they are on their own... and he/she better be able to keep me in the way I wanna be kept...

It is a very sad situation.

In my opinion the POINT of marriage is that two people who love each other, make a commitment to be true to each other, to live with each other, to help each other and to spend our lives together...

I am sure some "Unmarried" couples might live that way and stay together ... but it seems a little doubtful to me..

I have two Grand Daughters who both have 2 illegitimate babies. One of them has been married 3 times and the other has been engaged 4 times... and they both are 27 years old... When asked about why... The answer is basically "WHY NOT"

again, a sad situation..

Mike
When my wife and I got married 55yrs 10 months ago... (show quote)


Hi Mike,
Keep working at it and it may last. :-)
Nice to hear of your experiences.

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Mar 2, 2014 19:28:12   #
Wellhiem Loc: Sunny England.
 
Carl 383 wrote:
Pre-nups mean nothing to my wife or to me - we are in it for the duration - till death do us part.
Starting with a pre-nup is laying the foundation to fail. If we run into difficulties we don't reach for the pre-nuptial agreement, we work through it and this attitude has served us well for over thirty years.


I am not at all a religious person (as some of you will have realised), but when I got married it was till death do us part. Death did part us way too soon, but until that point we both took those promises seriously and no legal bit of paper would have made a difference. I'm now single and can do what ever I like. But if I make a promise, I will stick to it.

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Mar 2, 2014 21:45:19   #
willstaff Loc: Daytona Beach, Fl
 
sarge69 wrote:
Pre-nups are great when the groom is 85 and rich and the bride is 27 and a lap dancer at 'Wild Cats' and there are children involved don't you think ?

Sarge69


Are you describing your situation or a hypothetical?

:-D :-D :-D

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