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Feb 19, 2014 17:01:20   #
pounder35 Loc: "Southeast of Disorder"
 
Another example of the public school system. Teacher's unions with the full support of the Democrats has gotten us to this point. Near Detroit? Another surprise. :roll: :shock:

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Feb 19, 2014 17:17:44   #
Nikonbob Loc: Upper Chichester, PA
 
At least in the public school system we learn grammar and can make subjects and verbs agree. Your comment, "Teachers unions with the full support of the Democrats HAS gotten us to this point." If you had graduated from a legitimate high school, you'd realize you should have said HAVE, not HAS to make the subject(s) and verb agree.

Here's a suggestion for future hyperbole... If you're going to knock teachers, at least try to appear that you are educated.
I won't even attack your statement. You invalidated it quite well yourself.

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Feb 19, 2014 17:24:02   #
pounder35 Loc: "Southeast of Disorder"
 
Nikonbob wrote:
At least in the public school system we learn grammar and can make subjects and verbs agree. Your comment, "Teachers unions with the full support of the Democrats HAS gotten us to this point." If you had graduated from a legitimate high school, you'd realize you should have said HAVE, not HAS to make the subject(s) and verb agree.

Here's a suggestion for future hyperbole... If you're going to knock teachers, at least try to appear that you are educated.
I won't even attack your statement. You invalidated it quite well yourself.
At least in the public school system we learn gram... (show quote)


I stand corrected. Now get over it. :roll: I'm not so much knocking teachers as I am the system. It's a train wreck.

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Feb 19, 2014 17:35:29   #
Nikonbob Loc: Upper Chichester, PA
 
Pounder,

I applaud your integrity and you're right to a point. The system is a mess, and some lazy teachers hurt the performance. But, much of the problem in the shools starts at home, where parents ignore the importance of learning and teaching their children. The school day has only so many hours devoted to actual instruction. Parents who care about their children will take the bull by the horns and ensure their kids are prepared. They have to limit distractions and check homework and other assignments.

By the way, I love the photo of the dog...really cute.

Bob

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Feb 19, 2014 17:49:52   #
pounder35 Loc: "Southeast of Disorder"
 
Nikonbob wrote:
Pounder,

I applaud your integrity and you're right to a point. The system is a mess, and some lazy teachers hurt the performance. But, much of the problem in the shools starts at home, where parents ignore the importance of learning and teaching their children. The school day has only so many hours devoted to actual instruction. Parents who care about their children will take the bull by the horns and ensure their kids are prepared. They have to limit distractions and check homework and other assignments.

By the way, I love the photo of the dog...really cute.

Bob
Pounder, br br I applaud your integrity and you'r... (show quote)


I agree. But children with uneducated parents (or parent), who are also a child of uneducated parents (or parent), are in a tough spot. Through no fault of their own. It's an ugly cycle with no easy solution. I lost the pup 3 years ago after 12 wonderful years of being her slave. :roll: :lol: :thumbup: On the subject of education I recently took some college level courses with instructors who were completely unqualified for the job. It was a state operated community college. I don't know about other states but the state run two year system here is about as bad as the government run K-12 system.

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Feb 19, 2014 18:04:24   #
Nikonbob Loc: Upper Chichester, PA
 
Sorry about the pup...Always tough to lose a friend. I trained as a high school teacher and after seeing the system from the inside, as a substitute teacher, I decided against teaching as a career.There are just so many obstacles in the way of dedicated teachers who want to make a difference. I saw many who, like you observed, were unqualified.

A teaching certificate may get you the job, but it doesn't make you a professional. A professional teacher will teach VALUES, not just the academic subject. Integrity, industry, ethics, morality, pride, compassion and patriotism are values worth transmitting to the next generation. If a teacher is unwilling to teach those values, he, or she, has a job, NOT a profession.

Thanks for taking the time to reply, and don't ever give up on learning. The most valuable lessons are those we teach ourselves.

Bob

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Feb 19, 2014 18:10:12   #
pounder35 Loc: "Southeast of Disorder"
 
Nikonbob wrote:
Sorry about the pup...Always tough to lose a friend. I trained as a high school teacher and after seeing the system from the inside, as a substitute teacher, I decided against teaching as a career.There are just so many obstacles in the way of dedicated teachers who want to make a difference. I saw many who, like you observed, were unqualified.

A teaching certificate may get you the job, but it doesn't make you a professional. A professional teacher will teach VALUES, not just the academic subject. Integrity, industry, ethics, morality, pride, compassion and patriotism are values worth transmitting to the next generation. If a teacher is unwilling to teach those values, he, or she, has a job, NOT a profession.

Thanks for taking the time to reply, and don't ever give up on learning. The most valuable lessons are those we teach ourselves.

Bob
Sorry about the pup...Always tough to lose a frien... (show quote)


" The most valuable lessons are those we teach ourselves."

So true! That's why I'm teaching myself PLC and robotics since the instructor was incapable of even the basics. I have the same simulators installed on my computers that were used at the college. Paid for out of my pocket. No government funding.
:roll: :lol: :thumbup: BTW, thanks for your service. My Dad is USAF, Retired, and a retired educator in the public school system. :thumbup:

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Feb 19, 2014 18:27:38   #
Nikonbob Loc: Upper Chichester, PA
 
Good for you. Robotics is an interesting field. I enjoy electronics as a hobby. Been an amateur radio operator for over 35 years and serve as my county's ARES emergency coordinator, backing up the 911 center and providing radio communications during power outages and disasters. Been a busy season with downed power lines in my area.

Yes, I served in the US Navy. My dad was USMC and mom USN during WW2. Guess it was in my blood. Bet your dad has told you some great stories from his USAF days. I was a Navy photog and flew aerial photo missions from carriers, although mostly helos. These days, I am still in aviation as a supervisor for a major airline.

I agree with the quoted sentiments at the bottom of your replies. Those of us who embrace liberty must always keep a skeptical and wary eye on government. Otherwise, we risk losing the freedoms we cherish. As they say, "the road to hell is paved with good intentions."

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Feb 19, 2014 18:55:05   #
pounder35 Loc: "Southeast of Disorder"
 
Nikonbob wrote:
Good for you. Robotics is an interesting field. I enjoy electronics as a hobby. Been an amateur radio operator for over 35 years and serve as my county's ARES emergency coordinator, backing up the 911 center and providing radio communications during power outages and disasters. Been a busy season with downed power lines in my area.

Yes, I served in the US Navy. My dad was USMC and mom USN during WW2. Guess it was in my blood. Bet your dad has told you some great stories from his USAF days. I was a Navy photog and flew aerial photo missions from carriers, although mostly helos. These days, I am still in aviation as a supervisor for a major airline.

I agree with the quoted sentiments at the bottom of your replies. Those of us who embrace liberty must always keep a skeptical and wary eye on government. Otherwise, we risk losing the freedoms we cherish. As they say, "the road to hell is paved with good intentions."
Good for you. Robotics is an interesting field. I ... (show quote)


If you want to combine a few hobbies into one you should try RC quad-copters.My brother is big into the hobby and has me interested. I'll PM some photos and links to some of their videos using the FPV cameras on the choppers. I'm considering getting into it to film commercial properties along the Gulf Coast but as of now there is an FAA regulation about using the "drones" for commercial use (profit).

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Feb 19, 2014 20:14:31   #
Nikonbob Loc: Upper Chichester, PA
 
The RC helos are a lot of fun. I have a few small ones and one RC F4U Corsair, which hasn't been in the air yet. The FAA is still trying to figure how to regulate drones, so commercial photography with them is off-limits except in special circumstances. Don't have an idea how that is going to play out.

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Feb 20, 2014 07:54:36   #
ole sarg Loc: south florida
 
Well said!



Nikonbob wrote:
At least in the public school system we learn grammar and can make subjects and verbs agree. Your comment, "Teachers unions with the full support of the Democrats HAS gotten us to this point." If you had graduated from a legitimate high school, you'd realize you should have said HAVE, not HAS to make the subject(s) and verb agree.

Here's a suggestion for future hyperbole... If you're going to knock teachers, at least try to appear that you are educated.
I won't even attack your statement. You invalidated it quite well yourself.
At least in the public school system we learn gram... (show quote)

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Feb 20, 2014 09:09:57   #
Robin Poole Loc: Missoula, Mt
 
NikonBob & Pounder, Just finished reading your posts and am impressed how you were able to quit throwing darts at each other and instead threw compliments. How the quality of the posts improved. Good going!! What if congress could do that? Keep up the good work. Cheers, Robin

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Feb 20, 2014 09:44:40   #
Duane D. Loc: Kalkaska, Michigan
 
Nikonbob: Thanks for interesting info. My first was in 1974--KA8FIA--2nd- N8EZW--3rd-KG8LF- and now- WT8WW but have not been active for 8 or 9 years now. 73's old man.

Duane D.

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Feb 20, 2014 09:54:17   #
pounder35 Loc: "Southeast of Disorder"
 
Robin Poole wrote:
NikonBob & Pounder, Just finished reading your posts and am impressed how you were able to quit throwing darts at each other and instead threw compliments. How the quality of the posts improved. Good going!! What if congress could do that? Keep up the good work. Cheers, Robin


Thanks Robin. Congress? Fugitabotit ! :roll: :lol:

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Feb 20, 2014 10:30:22   #
W7AX Loc: Polson, Montana
 
Robin Poole wrote:
NikonBob & Pounder, Just finished reading your posts and am impressed how you were able to quit throwing darts at each other and instead threw compliments. How the quality of the posts improved. Good going!! What if congress could do that? Keep up the good work. Cheers, Robin


I second that ! From an old time ham from 1950 W7AX
On CW to start...and I still am. 73 es cul

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