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Feb 19, 2014 15:48:19   #
amehta Loc: Boston
 
I feel like we've enabled jscudder to hijack this topic. Hopefully the OP will be okay with that. :-D

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Feb 19, 2014 15:49:34   #
jscudder Loc: Sycamore Illinois
 
lukan wrote:
Anand, I agree that the 24 is more interesting as far as landscapes go, and possibly for people group shots too. I personally think the 50mm is the most boring, and don't blame you at all for not having/ using one. The 35mm focal length and perspective for me is good for the group shots, but I go to somewhere between 24 and 28mm on my landscapes. I, however, do this via my 24-70 zoom (on the A99). I probably get more use out of a 28mm than a 35mm, truth be told, but that 35mm Zeiss is really choice glass, and would make some beautiful black and white street art.
Anand, I agree that the 24 is more interesting as ... (show quote)


I like to shoot a 65mm Mamiya lens for landscapes on my Mamiya 7 medium format for landscapes. The 43mm often has a strange effect with things like telephone poles. What lens would be closest on the Sony to my 65mm medium format lens?

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Feb 19, 2014 16:03:59   #
amehta Loc: Boston
 
jscudder wrote:
I like to shoot a 65mm Mamiya lens for landscapes on my Mamiya 7 medium format for landscapes. The 43mm often has a strange effect with things like telephone poles. What lens would be closest on the Sony to my 65mm medium format lens?

The Mamiya 7 has an actual image size of about 55x70, and 35mm/full frame is about 24x36mm. The aspect ratio is different, the M7 is 5:4 while FF is 3:2, so the "crop factor" is not a simple calculation. It's approximately 0.5x, so a lens in the 30-35mm range would be comparable to your 65mm Mamiya lens, and the 43mm would be about a 20mm full frame lens.

I believe the "strange effect with things like telephone poles" is distortion. While the amount of distortion does increase with wide angle lenses, each lens is different, and with zooms, each focal length in the zoom range often has different distortion effects. Also, image processing software can correct for the lens distortion. Basically, I wouldn't use your frustration with the results from the 43mm Mamiya as a reason to not try a 24mm wide angle lens with a full frame camera.

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Feb 19, 2014 16:26:33   #
lukan Loc: Chicago, IL
 
amehta wrote:
With the 24-70mm, do you find you're either shooting at 28-24mm or at 70mm?

I expect every Sony Sonnar T* FE lens to be really choice glass, I would just wait for the 24mm. I can see your point of "street art" being a niche for the 35mm lens.


I like the 70mm end for portraits, and the 24-28mm end for groups and landscapes. I shot Lake Michigan at sunrise while it was frozen over, from the shore (of course), using the 24mm end at about f8 and it was fantastic. That's the right focal length for that expanse, for sure. I also shot a shoreline shot of the Highway One coastline just south of Bodega Bay using that lens between 35-40mm at f6.7 and that came out good. I also shot a family shot of three generations of girls, aged 90 on down to 17 using the 70mm at f4, and that was good too. The zoom works for me.

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Feb 19, 2014 16:29:19   #
lukan Loc: Chicago, IL
 
jscudder wrote:
I like to shoot a 65mm Mamiya lens for landscapes on my Mamiya 7 medium format for landscapes. The 43mm often has a strange effect with things like telephone poles. What lens would be closest on the Sony to my 65mm medium format lens?


Rent a 24-70 f2.8 Carl Zeiss zoom for your FF body, and do some comparisons at different focal lengths, then buy what you think you'll use the most, or just buy the CZ 24-70 itself!
To Amehta's point above, the 24mm is an interesting and quite wide (wide enough without too much distortion), especially for use with landscapes (sweeping vistas). Growing up, I was always taught that 28mm is the "perfect" wide angle due to lack of distortion, and that anything wider than that would yield a distorted perspective. Today, I don't think that perspective is really all that bad (the 24mm one, that is)!

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Feb 21, 2014 12:57:48   #
CHOLLY Loc: THE FLORIDA PANHANDLE!
 
The 24-70mm CZ is an EXCELLENT lens... one of my favorites and a great walk-around lens so long as you only go on a short to medium length walk. (It's kinda heavy!) ;)

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Feb 21, 2014 13:18:24   #
lukan Loc: Chicago, IL
 
CHOLLY wrote:
The 24-70mm CZ is an EXCELLENT lens... one of my favorites and a great walk-around lens so long as you only go on a short to medium length walk. (It's kinda heavy!) ;)


It's one of my top three favorite lenses; and yes it's heavy, but I've found the weight to actually be a stabilizing force. The images I get out of that bad-boy on the A99 are simply beautiful.

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Feb 22, 2014 00:09:16   #
CHOLLY Loc: THE FLORIDA PANHANDLE!
 
More reach on the APS-C A77 so the images are from a shorter angle... but TACK SHARP, crystal clear, and beautifully colored. :thumbup:

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Feb 22, 2014 08:36:44   #
lukan Loc: Chicago, IL
 
CHOLLY wrote:
More reach on the APS-C A77 so the images are from a shorter angle... but TACK SHARP, crystal clear, and beautifully colored. :thumbup:


Amen, brother.

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