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Feb 8, 2014 11:15:33   #
Photobud Loc: Palmetto, Florida
 
I have used Epson Double-Sided Matte Paper which is a 47 lb. paper for several years and it works very well in my Canon Pro Mark II printer. It never bleeds through and is an excellent weight paper for a clendar.

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Feb 8, 2014 13:09:48   #
jeep_daddy Loc: Prescott AZ
 
JohninRockville wrote:
I use a Canon Pro printer (12 inks) and generally get good prints across most papers I've tried. I recently got a box of Red River double sided, semi-gloss paper with the intention of printing some calendars. I used a laser printer to print the calendar side and intended on printing pictures on the opposite.
I have to say the pictures came out poorly - appear to have scuff marks at various parts of the page. Thinking the laser might have altered the surface I tried an unused page with the same picture and it was as bad or worse. I printed another picture on Cannon gloss to see if the printer was at fault and the print came out just fine - so it's the bloody paper. I also note that this double sided stuff is very light and flimsy. Other Red River papers have produced great prints and I really like the metallic pearl.
Anyone else have problems with the double sided paper? I've used about a dozen sheets out of a box of 100 and would really like to return it as it appears useless for any printing.
I use a Canon Pro printer (12 inks) and generally ... (show quote)


If I were you I'd contact Red River to see what they say. They may have an ICC paper profile for this and some suggestions as to which type of paper selection might work best for this. It could be just a simple setting. Also, before purchasing paper, some companies will send you some sample paper free of charge to try. Try this next time with Red River.

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Feb 8, 2014 13:21:19   #
plumgecko
 
The Printer line marks sound like what happens when you print from Photoshop and forget to UNCHECK the High Speed box. Uncheck that box and it prints more slowly. You get coverage where it is now skipping.

plumgecko

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Feb 8, 2014 14:24:27   #
13oct1931 Loc: Lebanon, Indiana
 
Howdy Johnny: I'm just down the road in Boone county; spent a lot of time in Rockville, trying to organize a Lions Club.
But as to your question: If you have your receipt--TAKE IT BACK. You may just have received a bad batch of paper. Accept an even exchange. If that is bad, get your money back and by some EDSON paper; its foolproof. If it works for me, it will work for anybody.

Alyn
alyn1477@metronet.net

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Feb 8, 2014 14:40:52   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
JohninRockville wrote:
WOW! Interesting pictures. We have a lot of problems with squirrels and raccoons getting into bird feeders. I solved the problem by hanging feeders beneath the overhang on the roof (fascia?) which most critters find discouraging. They will climb the TV tower to get to the roof but can't reach beneath to the feeders.
We occasionally get a pack of coyotes on the property and it's quite intimidating to hear them in your back yard in the dark.
I've never seen one but the coons nearer the house take to the trees.
WOW! Interesting pictures. We have a lot of prob... (show quote)

Make sure that those racoons don't dig right through your roof and set up housekeeping in the attic. happened to us a few years ago. Squirells do it too. Don.t like the pitter patter of little feet above the ceiling.

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Feb 8, 2014 14:46:24   #
tylerdan Loc: Bullard, Tx
 
Make sure you are using the proper printer settings for the paper. The RedRiver paper will include a red sheet that tells you how to set the printer. Also, you will get the best results letting your printing software control color and use a RedRiver ICC profile for that specific paper.

I have printed on different double sided papers, include a couple of RedRiver papers with no problem.

You did not mention the specific printer model, but the Canon Pro model with 12 colors is probably their pigment printer. Just make sure that the paper you use is compatible with the pigment ink or dye ink, which ever you use. Not all papers are compatible with both.

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Feb 8, 2014 15:41:40   #
alicequinn Loc: Brooklyn, NY
 
JohninRockville wrote:
WOW! Interesting pictures. We have a lot of problems with squirrels and raccoons getting into bird feeders. I solved the problem by hanging feeders beneath the overhang on the roof (fascia?) which most critters find discouraging. They will climb the TV tower to get to the roof but can't reach beneath to the feeders.
We occasionally get a pack of coyotes on the property and it's quite intimidating to hear them in your back yard in the dark.
I've never seen one but the coons nearer the house take to the trees.
WOW! Interesting pictures. We have a lot of prob... (show quote)


great picture of the raccoons...

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Feb 8, 2014 15:41:58   #
Collie lover Loc: St. Louis, MO
 
I have a Canon Pro-1 that I only use for top-quality prints or if I want something 13 x 19. I keep it turned off, but think I'll take your advice and leave it on. My other printer is a HP Officejet 8600. I use it for every day printing (mostly black) and for scanning. Prior to that I had a brother color laser printer and prior to that an Epson.

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Feb 8, 2014 15:45:11   #
Collie lover Loc: St. Louis, MO
 
Is this a Canon Pro-1? I agree that the ink is expensive, but the quality is excellent. I use this printer only if I want top quality prints and have another printer for every day use.

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Feb 8, 2014 15:46:13   #
Collie lover Loc: St. Louis, MO
 
I think you mean Epson paper.

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Feb 8, 2014 16:27:02   #
JohninRockville Loc: Rockville, Indiana
 
Thanks for the suggestions and comments. I had a reply from RR paper and they suggested trying the setting for matt finish. I did and it seems to have taken care of the problem. They did refuse to take the paper back since I had used some of it, but at least I can use the paper now.

Regarding the raccoons, I've been feeding them for over 2 years with no damage yet aside from occasional crapping on the roof & deck but aware of the risks. The former owner told me they had one tame enough to allow within the house - definitely something I'll never try. In trade - in the spring the mothers bring the little ones to the deck to eat and frolic which has given me many adorable pictures I can sell.

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Feb 8, 2014 17:56:15   #
jayruss Loc: Wiltshire, UK
 
I have had problems with double sided papers on all kinds of printer. One thing that seems to help, but takes a long time, is to print one side then allow it to dry thoroughly. When dry, put plain paper between prints and compress under a weight or pile of books. Leave for some hours - overnight is better. This takes out most of the buckling caused by the first printing which is what is rubbing internally and causing the track marks.

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Feb 8, 2014 23:08:21   #
Brian in Whitby Loc: Whitby, Ontario, Canada
 
JohninRockville wrote:
I use a Canon Pro printer (12 inks) and generally get good prints across most papers I've tried. I recently got a box of Red River double sided, semi-gloss paper with the intention of printing some calendars. I used a laser printer to print the calendar side and intended on printing pictures on the opposite.
I have to say the pictures came out poorly - appear to have scuff marks at various parts of the page. Thinking the laser might have altered the surface I tried an unused page with the same picture and it was as bad or worse. I printed another picture on Cannon gloss to see if the printer was at fault and the print came out just fine - so it's the bloody paper. I also note that this double sided stuff is very light and flimsy. Other Red River papers have produced great prints and I really like the metallic pearl.
Anyone else have problems with the double sided paper? I've used about a dozen sheets out of a box of 100 and would really like to return it as it appears useless for any printing.
I use a Canon Pro printer (12 inks) and generally ... (show quote)


Is it possible that passing the paper through the laser printer put a warp in the paper as it passed through a convoluted paper path?

Just a thought.

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Feb 9, 2014 03:56:07   #
Pablo8 Loc: Nottingham UK.
 
jayruss wrote:
I have had problems with double sided papers on all kinds of printer. One thing that seems to help, but takes a long time, is to print one side then allow it to dry thoroughly. When dry, put plain paper between prints and compress under a weight or pile of books. Leave for some hours - overnight is better. This takes out most of the buckling caused by the first printing which is what is rubbing internally and causing the track marks.


I suppose I should have stated this also, but thought it would be logical to let the first side dry thoroughly (over-night) before inserting for the reverse side printing. I just lay prints out flat to 'air-dry' overnight at least. Sometimes, a couple of days.

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Feb 9, 2014 06:50:36   #
WNC Ralf Loc: Candler NC, in the mountains!
 
Pablo8 wrote:
I suppose I should have stated this also, but thought it would be logical to let the first side dry thoroughly (over-night) before inserting for the reverse side printing. I just lay prints out flat to 'air-dry' overnight at least. Sometimes, a couple of days.


He was using the wrong setting for his paper, not a physical problem, operator error.

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