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Jan 22, 2012 01:37:02   #
Guy Johnstone Loc: Ocean Shores WA
 
on the rare occasion that I'm serious about shooting black and white I still shoot film. I'm yet to see a inkjet printer that handles black-and-white very well. I would never shoot digital in black-and-white. I can always change color later, so why would I limit myself.

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Jan 22, 2012 07:16:48   #
Cornishpete Loc: Illinois
 
anotherview wrote:
If you shoot in the RAW file format, and set the camera to monochrome (i.e., black-and-white), the camera monitor will display a b&w JPEG representation of the RAW file. The RAW file format, however, records the photograph in color.
omnila wrote:
I love black&white photography so my ? is should i shoot in color and then convert it or shoot in B&W? Which is better? It seems like it is easier to shoot in B&W then you can check the view finder to see how you did.Just wondering what others do.
If you shoot in the RAW file format, and set the c... (show quote)


I always shoot RAW and convert from color but it had never occured to me what you pointed out above. Thank you!
I purchased a book 'Black and White Photography in the Digital Age' by Tony Worobiec and Ray Spence, a couple of years ago and that describes some interesting techniques of the several different methods of converting such as Greyscale; Lab Color; etc and methods of esoteric effects such as cyanotype; liquid emulsion; lith printing;dual toning; selenium and of course sepia in several forms. In other words they describe methods of simulating wet film methods that are fast disappearing from even the language of todays photographers. I really need to get down to seriously trying them all rather than just reading about them in bed!

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Jan 22, 2012 07:36:25   #
Add Loc: S.W.Florida
 
I often use the "infrared B&W" position on my Pentax if I want B&W.Of course it is not true infrared,but it often makes a dramatic picture.I also delete many of the results,however,the good ones stand out.

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Jan 22, 2012 08:23:40   #
nikon_jon Loc: Northeast Arkansas
 
omnila wrote:
I love black&white photography so my ? is should i shoot in color and then convert it or shoot in B&W? Which is better? It seems like it is easier to shoot in B&W then you can check the view finder to see how you did.Just wondering what others do.


Invest in a second camera. Keep one set for color and the other set for b&w. Cost too much? Can anyone say Ebay?

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Jan 22, 2012 08:23:53   #
arphot Loc: Massachusetts
 
I'm not savvy enough about b&w to know better. I don't think I could review the lcd screen and tell whether a b&w image I'm looking at in that small area is going to translate well to print or monitor. And, even if I shot a b&w (in camera) and a color image of the same scene and placed them side by side on my monitor, I don't know that I'd be able to discern any quality or aesthetic difference worthy of my own opinion. :shock:

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Jan 22, 2012 08:58:17   #
TimothyBuss Loc: Virginia/West Virginia
 
donrent wrote:
Here's someone who does nothing but b/w....

http://www.clydebutcher.com/


wow... very impressive... like the old days...

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Jan 22, 2012 09:12:47   #
photocat Loc: Atlanta, Ga
 
you might want to check here on this site as there are several other threads that go into more detail about various options along with the pros and cons of in camera black and white.

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Jan 22, 2012 09:24:54   #
notnoBuddha
 
anotherview wrote:
If you shoot in the RAW file format, and set the camera to monochrome (i.e., black-and-white), the camera monitor will display a b&w JPEG representation of the RAW file. The RAW file format, however, records the photograph in color.
omnila wrote:
I love black&white photography so my ? is should i shoot in color and then convert it or shoot in B&W? Which is better? It seems like it is easier to shoot in B&W then you can check the view finder to see how you did.Just wondering what others do.
If you shoot in the RAW file format, and set the c... (show quote)


I did not know this - but than I can't begin to list all that I have no idea of. Thanks, I will try to retain.

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Jan 22, 2012 09:26:39   #
LoneRangeFinder Loc: Left field
 
RMM wrote:
Here's one reason to convert from color:

http://av.adobe.com/russellbrown/CS3Color_To_BWSM.mov

By shifting the hues of individual colors, you can increase the tone contrast between areas that convert to similar shades of gray. I've used this to good effect.


Awesome! I love this tutorial. Back to CS3 to play. Anyone interested in B&W conversion should check out this tutorial.
Thanks.

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Jan 22, 2012 09:47:32   #
Rufe Loc: Missouri
 
If you have time, why not shoot in Color and B&W.

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Jan 22, 2012 10:18:01   #
greymule Loc: Colorado
 
RMM wrote:
Here's one reason to convert from color:

http://av.adobe.com/russellbrown/CS3Color_To_BWSM.mov

By shifting the hues of individual colors, you can increase the tone contrast between areas that convert to similar shades of gray. I've used this to good effect.


Very top techie tip. I'm saving that link!

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Jan 22, 2012 10:38:49   #
georgebs Loc: Georgia
 
I always learn from others questions on this site, as I am sure we all do. Anyway, RMM Thanks very much for pointing out the B&W tutorial. That's exactly what I want to do.

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Jan 22, 2012 10:46:02   #
spiderbob
 
You can shoot both, RAW and jpeg, set your camera to monochrome, your RAW image will still be color.

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Jan 22, 2012 10:58:25   #
slickrock Loc: jacksonville
 
A RAW file is your best option.

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Jan 22, 2012 11:14:13   #
RMM Loc: Suburban New York
 
To the several people who thanked me for the Russell Brown reference, you're very welcome. His Tips & Tutorials span from early releases to the latest release. I'm on CS2, so I'm way out of date. Nevertheless, it's worth looking at what he does in later releases because there are often ways to replicate a technique, even if a feature is missing in your version. And just seeing that something can be done can give you ideas to go off in new directions.

And it doesn't hurt that Brown is an escapee from a Looney Tunes cartoon.

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