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Jan 24, 2014 07:40:40   #
BboH Loc: s of 2/21, Ellicott City, MD
 
I'm inclined to think that you either have or not an eye for a good looking scene whether thru the viewfinder or on the computer. Just being able to do all of the technical stuff in the camera or PP doesn't mean the result will be appealing - at least that's my experience. My problem may really be an untrained critical eye???

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Jan 24, 2014 07:43:59   #
sodapop Loc: Bel Air, MD
 
Skellum0 wrote:
Foyer what's its worth here are my thoughts.

1. Everyone is born with some creativity ( though some more than others)
2. Despite the best efforts of American education, some people manage to retain some creativity into adulthood.
3. Those who try really hard can learn to be creative again.
4. Genius however, is truly rare.


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Jan 24, 2014 07:49:03   #
mrova Loc: Chesterfield, VA
 
Elliern wrote:
And in US schools, creativity is now stifled.


I think that's part of the problem there. We don't tend to encourage creativity very much...but I think related to that is there seems to me to be less interest in creativity overall.
I don't see any issue with whether or not creativity can be taught. I'm wondering if the bigger question isn't "can/will creativity be learned?" Our brains are all wired differently, some folks just aren't very creative by nature, others excel at it. But creativity 'can' be taught...but will it be learned? And is there any desire to learn?

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Jan 24, 2014 07:57:53   #
joer Loc: Colorado/Illinois
 
amehta wrote:
Sometimes, a person has a truly original thought, but I think that is rare. Most of the time, our ideas are a synthesis of things we have experienced before, and creativity is about how we assemble the thought. I think that can be taught.


I too believe it can be taught at some level although some people have an affinity for it.

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Jan 24, 2014 08:02:37   #
Marilyng Loc: Lorain,Oh.
 
timmah1979 wrote:
Yesterday evening, I came across a topic concerning Black and White photography. And somehow i came out with the statement "Creativity can not be taught", which is i believe. But because my statement took over the posts and sparked discussion, I wanted to bring it over to its own topic. So let me ask everyone,

Can creativity be Taught or is it something you naturally have?

Let the discussion begin


I think everyone has some form of creativity,you just have to acknowledge it & do something with it that makes you happy & at peace with yourself!

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Jan 24, 2014 08:23:38   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
timmah1979 wrote:
Yesterday evening, I came across a topic concerning Black and White photography. And somehow i came out with the statement "Creativity can not be taught", which is i believe. But because my statement took over the posts and sparked discussion, I wanted to bring it over to its own topic. So let me ask everyone,

Can creativity be Taught or is it something you naturally have?

Let the discussion begin

Yes, but only up to a certain point. You can teach techniques for being creative - coming up with new, clever ideas.

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Jan 24, 2014 08:25:30   #
CanonShot Loc: Lancaster County, PA
 
Creativity can be NURTURED by others and SELF-TAUGHT based on one or more successful "creative" experiences. It does not mean it will be self-taught, but it certainly CAN be. I observed this phenomena many, many times throughout my 38-year teaching career. IMHO, every individual is "gifted" in one or more ways.

The discovery process,time-wise, is the major player. For instance, how many of you UHHers, over 50, are just coming into "your own", creatively speaking, NOW? How many of you have discovered a self-taught creative photographic skill and others are recognizing it in your work? For how many of you is this happening in your regular day-job and others are recognizing it and are either giving you, or not giving you, credit for the creatively successful angle you are proud of?

Bottom line(IMHO): Creativity can be nurtured by others or self-taught over a period of time. Can creativity transfer to another area of endeavor... for each of us, the jury is still out.

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Jan 24, 2014 08:31:53   #
anotherview Loc: California
 
As with anything that may vary, human creativity as a quality will express itself with variance. Further, we may suppose the potential for creative activity varies. In other words, some humans possess and show more creativity than others.

As well we need a distinction between two kinds of activity: Production and creation. in your example, you produce while your friend creates, loosely speaking.

As to the question of teaching creativity, I believe doing so not possible for creativity, as noted above, functions as an expression of a given potential for creation.

In addition, complicating things, creation and imagination go together and likely co-depend and interact for creative output.

All this said, favorable conditions can foster the expression of creative potential. A friendly learning environment may help in this fostering. A flexible approach to teaching which allows for and recognizes the expression of creative activity may aid this expression.

I now turn the floor over to others for their view of this interesting topic.
timmah1979 wrote:
Yesterday evening, I came across a topic concerning Black and White photography. And somehow i came out with the statement "Creativity can not be taught", which is i believe. But because my statement took over the posts and sparked discussion, I wanted to bring it over to its own topic. So let me ask everyone,

Can creativity be Taught or is it something you naturally have?

Let the discussion begin

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Jan 24, 2014 08:35:25   #
Davet Loc: Fort Myers, Florida
 
One of the best replys Ive read in a long time. Fantastic and interesting response. Thanks for your insight........
timmah1979 wrote:
Rby,

Well keep at it. For me i am a little off center (ask anybody who knows me) and the way i view things are a little bit odd.

Growing up (i'm 34), i didn't keep alot of friends so i looked towards books, movies (especially the horror genre) and music to keep my busy.

I ended up with my first camera (kodak disc) at age 7. I had won it in a school contest and it kinda sat on the shelf for about a year because i just wasn't really into it. until 8/9 years old when Wrestling had come to town and i wanted to keep some memories (not to mention since it was MY hobby, i had to find ways to buy film, get it developed. My parents weren't going to pay for it!)

now keep in mind this was 1987/1988 Was a year of firsts for me, i was just getting interested in heavy metal music which if you know much about that particular genre they tend to be descriptive about what they are singing about and certain bands had certain niches they sang about (Megadeth-politics, Guns N Roses-L.A. Scene. Bands like Danzig and Slayer were occult themed...you get the idea) toss this in with seeing my first horror movie (Nightmare on Elm St 3) and getting interested in Stephen King (The Stand was the first book i read WILLINGLY on my own outside of school and yes it was the unabridged version!) it created an influence heaven.

The more my senses got stimulated is when i started to think maybe, just maybe i had something to offer. These things i were getting into triggered an imagination. But the creative with the camera end didn't start happening until about 2002. Because i was hell bent on being a writer. I wanted to write a movie (horror ofcourse) but I was was stuck in what i called short story limbo. Words no matter how good something might have been i wasn't able to express it on paper. Now i wouldn't say i'm bad at words but i tend to go on these tangents and things get repeated and i can't write dialogue to save my life.

When digital photography came about (and my disc camera was no longer because i beat that into the ground from 1988-1997) it was a godsend because i could learn but also experiment more.

When your stuck with film (i am NOT knocking film at all. I gotta make that clear) but if you just use film, you have to worry about the extra costs (buying film, processing, ect ect) Digital you can edit, maneuver and pretty much do what you want (especially when you shoot raw!)

So in 2002 I started to experiment with some ideas. I have an ego, I will admit, or it could be stubbornness, that i have to be different. I want my photos to stick out from someone else.

I started to dive in heavy into just being different. I made sure i learned the basics (fstops, iso, ect) but i was gonna do things that, like my personality, were off.

Example, Sunflower. Anybody can take a picture of a sunflower. You take a picture of a sunflower and i take a picture of the same flower. Heck, we might even use the settings. The only thing that maybe make or break is the quality of the lens. Keep in mind i am not knocking Nikon or any camera for that matter. I am just using for purpose of discussion. but maybe the flaw in your camera lens has sharpness issues whereas mine wouldn't. But obviously could be fixed in a editing program. But to a viewer, what would make it really stand out? Most would say its just a flower and move on.

That wouldn't be good enough for me, I would have to put some kind of spin on it. Me, Anyone who has seen my stuff over the years knows i always put a slight subtle tilt on it. Sometimes its subtle, sometimes not so much but you will always know who's photo you are looking at.

But even without the tilt, i would make maybe some odd crop choices, maybe section off a petal (just one) to be black and white.

I like (and challenge myself) to put interesting things out. Everyone likes what they like but it is a definite need (for me) to be different. I even take old photos and merge/layer them with new photos to create something new and exciting.

Lots of influences. Lots of stuff to "feed my brain" and at the end of the day its how i digest it, turn it into new and exciting that gives me the ultimate satisfaction in knowing that i got someone to take that one second of their life and be like i never seen anything like that before.

Nobody taught me, i was very influenced but i learned on my own, took what i needed to and i think that's what ultimately happens. I don't thing creativity is learned. I think its digested or absorbed. Its what you do with that "energy" is how creative you are. I think everyone has creative in them but they need triggers. Me the trigger started 25 years ago with the entertainment i found refuge in and the finger hasn't let off yet (hopefully never will) for others, might not be so easy.

I think the key is do what interests you, force yourself to expand on it, ask yourself questions "What if I did this or that" or try looking at it completely differently and be like maybe if i flipped it on its side, changed the perspective maybe eye level instead of on top or bottom maybe even change the colors all together.

Don't be afraid to experiment. Remember though, its about what you like. Don't care so much what anyone thinks as long as you're happy with it. and most importantly don't be afraid to be different!!!
Rby, br br Well keep at it. For me i am a little ... (show quote)

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Jan 24, 2014 08:42:02   #
dalematt Loc: Goderich, Ontario, Canada
 
clh3RD wrote:
Deep and wide subject. I have been blessed, or cursed, by having three close friends who are so much more creative than me that it isn't funny. But they discuss it all the time and agree that creativity is one thing while technical capability is something else entirely. Capability can be enhanced greatly by study and practice so it can come to rival creativity. But I personally think that creativity is of another dimension.

I agree wholeheartedly! We each have at least one talent, whether it is creativity or something else. I believe that we can become more creative, but to varying degrees.

I took up macro photography this past summer. It forced me to look for small things and different angles which definitely helped me become more creative. But, am I creative? Compared to some, no. Compared to what I was, yes.

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Jan 24, 2014 08:48:23   #
ddeufemia
 
All are created equal.Creativity is infused into the heart according to God's choice.

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Jan 24, 2014 08:54:59   #
OlinBost Loc: Marietta, Ga.
 
Creativity is a gift. But it can and usually needs to developed.

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Jan 24, 2014 08:55:01   #
magic823 Loc: Boise, ID
 
Yes. I'm teaching a Creativity Workshop this coming Wed. Creativity is just problem solving. It is not artistry. A photograph can be beautiful and not be creative. One of my pet peeves are those people that judge creative work in the eyes of artistry. They punish a creative photo because it doesn't fit their narrow definition of photography. One trap we get into is that we reward people photographically for being in the right place at the right time. They take a beautiful photo, but its the location that makes it beautiful. There is technical expertise to capture it well, but very little creativity. One of my recent works took me about 24 hours to create. It has won several awards including best of show in one competition. I entered in a local contest and it scored very poorly (for me) yet most everyone ohh and ahh over it when it was projected, but the three judges (in my opinion) are known for very artistic, but non-creative work. All of us with "creative" work (those with really any post-processing) were penalized.

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Jan 24, 2014 08:57:29   #
Davet Loc: Fort Myers, Florida
 
I would love to attend your workshop this Wednesday......However I live in Florida. Will you video it or have notes? I am very interested......
magic823 wrote:
Yes. I'm teaching a Creativity Workshop this coming Wed. Creativity is just problem solving. It is not artistry. A photograph can be beautiful and not be creative. One of my pet peeves are those people that judge creative work in the eyes of artistry. They punish a creative photo because it doesn't fit their narrow definition of photography. One trap we get into is that we reward people photographically for being in the right place at the right time. They take a beautiful photo, but its the location that makes it beautiful. There is technical expertise to capture it well, but very little creativity. One of my recent works took me about 24 hours to create. It has won several awards including best of show in one competition. I entered in a local contest and it scored very poorly (for me) yet every ohh and agh over it when it was projected, but the three judges (in my opinion) are known for very artistic, but non-creative work. All of us with "creative" work (those with really any post-processing) were penalized.
Yes. I'm teaching a Creativity Workshop this comin... (show quote)

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Jan 24, 2014 08:59:21   #
magic823 Loc: Boise, ID
 
After this Wed. I'll make the slide desk available.

Steve

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