SherriA wrote:
Fewer variables with that. I have control over what I do with my own body. I do not have control over what everyone else does with the atmosphere.
Well, that's the point of treaties and strict regulations.
A reply to handgunner: what u just said about cold snap in ur country is exactly a good example what someone stated earlier .....that he wished the deniers would stop confusing local weather with global climate......
TrainNut wrote:
Yes the world is getting warmer right now. We agree on that. It is not as warm as it was back in the 1300s. The Question is about the cause.
No, WE don't. Who is WE..
And Re: global warming follow the money of who pays for the research. Groups and organizations who have ways to solve a non-existent problem and make money doing it.
Just buy a thermometer and learn how to use it
SherriA
Loc: After 2 yrs in Italy, back home in Florida
Gnslngr wrote:
Well, that's the point of treaties and strict regulations.
But I don't want other people telling me how I should run my life. Nobody is going to make me have chemotherapy if I don't choose that direction in the hypothetical cancer situation. No one should make me drive a hybrid car (which by the way would not pull my horse trailer) or use solar or wind energy.
Global warming,climate change...are the same as the earth revolving.Natural.
Co2 might make it seem as though something
is happening.
SherriA wrote:
But I don't want other people telling me how I should run my life. Nobody is going to make me have chemotherapy if I don't choose that direction in the hypothetical cancer situation. No one should make me drive a hybrid car (which by the way would not pull my horse trailer) or use solar or wind energy.
Right. So no one should be able to stop me from dumping the toxic waste that my manufacturing plant produces in the drinking water supply, right?
SherriA
Loc: After 2 yrs in Italy, back home in Florida
Gnslngr wrote:
Right. So no one should be able to stop me from dumping the toxic waste that my manufacturing plant produces in the drinking water supply, right?
Those regulations are already in place. Moot point. I'm not saying that people should be allowed to be stupid. I thought we were talking about climate change. Toxic waste in drinking water supplies is a different matter, IMO.
Gnslngr wrote:
Train, these are great questions! Let's ask the scientists. But which ones? Hmmm....
Physicists? Botanists? Climatologists? Yea, that's it. Let's ask the climatologists - they have spent their lives seeking the truth about the climate of the planet. And they publish papers about their findings, and all the other climatologists climb all over themselves trying to knock down their conclusions. They do everything they can do to prove that published climatologist wrong. After a while, they come up with a paper and a school of thought that none of them can come up with evidence to refute. (By the way, this is called "the scientific method".)
So let's ask them: what is causing global warming?
100% of the climatologists that use the scientific method (in other words, 100% of the scientists that have spent their life trying to determine the truth about the planet's climate) say that man is the cause of the increase in the average temperature of the earth's climate system.
Wow. We have an answer.
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Scientists in the past have agreed on a lot of things that were wrong.
Gnslngr wrote:
Right. So no one should be able to stop me from dumping the toxic waste that my manufacturing plant produces in the drinking water supply, right?
Wrong,dumping toxic anything into drinking water is wrong.
Gnslngr wrote:
Right. So no one should be able to stop me from dumping the toxic waste that my manufacturing plant produces in the drinking water supply, right?
Ooops! Who would have thought that was going to happen....?
Using our rivers and oceans as sewers was shown to be a bad idea - and the EPA was formed and things are better - still not good enough as the West VA folks have had to experience. !!!
Using our atmosphere as a sewer is equally problematic. Is it too big to fail?
I grew up in a smoggy city and I know that we can and do influence our local air. Why is it so hard to take the leap to that happening all over the world - and adding up to a big problem.
We might move the conversation to - what about the countries that are fueling their economies on dirty energy.
We are a product of our environment and our environment is the product of us. Face it ... It is human nature to exploit our natural resourses. There may be some truth to global warming and if that is the case, it will take an effort of the global community to solve it. That will never happen. We can't even settle our petty differences on the local scale never mind a world wide effort. The world will right itself again after we are extinct.
I agree that it's a short-term event. I believe it's become a "big" issue because there's "big" money in it.
SherriA wrote:
Those regulations are already in place. Moot point. I'm not saying that people should be allowed to be stupid. I thought we were talking about climate change. Toxic waste in drinking water supplies is a different matter, IMO.
Toxic waste in the drinking supply is just as dangerous as toxic waste in the air. So you have no problem with regulations and treaties that control that, right?
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