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Jan 13, 2014 23:15:07   #
Glider Loc: Austin
 
BS

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Jan 13, 2014 23:15:13   #
Glider Loc: Austin
 
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Jan 13, 2014 23:24:35   #
JC56 Loc: Lake St.Louis mo.
 
Glider wrote:
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you didn't have to post it twice.......... the first post said it all... your from Texas!!! It's the home of tall tales and BS.......people from texas are experts on BS but Canons have a better focusing system (45 points...... quick lock... etc etc) prove me wrong or just post bs for the third time.

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Jan 13, 2014 23:47:52   #
naturepics43 Loc: Hocking Co. Ohio - USA
 
JC56 wrote:
I have a pentax k5 it fires off 7 fps...but it doesn't focus worth a damn.....I can take a 1000 pics per day but only have 2 or 3 keepers...


I think your trying too hard! I've had my 150-500 for a year & a half and still have trouble sometimes. I get my best results @ 1/1250. Anything less and it's hit & miss. Also try slowing down your burst rate to 3 or 4 fps. The 150-500 is slow to focus if it doesn't get enough light probably because it's an f 6.3

Keep shooting AND keep smiling!

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Jan 14, 2014 00:00:40   #
JC56 Loc: Lake St.Louis mo.
 
slow to focus....put it on a pentax k5 and it's slower than my 100 year old granny in a 1000 yard dash.....and it hunts more than a hungry Cajun on growth hormones.

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Jan 14, 2014 00:36:47   #
Glider Loc: Austin
 
51 focus points, virtually INSTANT focus on AF-S lenses on my D4's, D3s, D800 or D700. 24 of the 51 focus points are cross points. Don't misunderstand. Canon makes some great gear and they were first into digital and for a long time, had better digital than Nikon, but the D3/D700 jumped in front and Canon has been playing catch up since. Unless you're talking video, then the D4 brings it about even, but just barely.
I shoot professionally, both studio and sports with a background in news. I'm around a lot of pros and if anyone is switching, they are going TO Nikon, not FROM Nikon. One of the reasons the Canon shooters give for changing is Nikon's focusing system.

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Jan 14, 2014 01:07:08   #
lightchime Loc: Somewhere Over The Rainbow
 
JC56 wrote:
when photographing moving objects it's all about FOCUS I don't care if you focus on the eyes or the ass. If your focus is off or blurry hit the delete button...... no amount of pp will help.....now how do you achieve that tack sharp focus.

1. use a 1000lb tripod...there heavy but stable.
2. use a very fast prime lens....there expensive but if you hit the lotto who cares.
3. buy a canon camera.........their focus system is second to none....and only a couple of bucks more.

I'm a pentax owner but it seems to me that canons lock focus and hold it much better than other brands.

I may be wrong....... opinions are welcome
when photographing moving objects it's all about F... (show quote)



I agree about the focusing of a Canon. They are especially tack sharp "where the sun don't shine". Just like your comment. An acquaintance who is a photographer and gastroenterologist told me that.

Consider a self portrait and give us your opinion. Am sure that in the end, you are right.

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Jan 14, 2014 03:00:59   #
amehta Loc: Boston
 
JC56 wrote:
when photographing moving objects it's all about FOCUS I don't care if you focus on the eyes or the ass. If your focus is off or blurry hit the delete button...... no amount of pp will help.....now how do you achieve that tack sharp focus.

1. use a 1000lb tripod...there heavy but stable.
2. use a very fast prime lens....there expensive but if you hit the lotto who cares.
3. buy a canon camera.........their focus system is second to none....and only a couple of bucks more.

I'm a pentax owner but it seems to me that canons lock focus and hold it much better than other brands.

I may be wrong....... opinions are welcome
when photographing moving objects it's all about F... (show quote)

I agree that tack sharp focus is necessary for a successful action shot.
1. I don't think a tripod is needed. If you're going use the "do you see any sports or action photographers using" line, try finishing it with "tripod". If anything they're using monopods.

2. I agree that it helps, but it's mainly to get faster shutter speeds. A f/2.8 zoom will do very well too, and Tamron and Sigma have well priced ones which are very competitive with the Canon and Nikon zooms.

3. The Canon AF system may be second to none. But others are close enough to be as effective as we need.

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Jan 14, 2014 05:35:53   #
SharpShooter Loc: NorCal
 
Glider wrote:
51 focus points, 24 of the 51 focus points are cross type. if anyone is switching, they are going TO Nikon


Glider, 24 cross pts, is that all you got? Glider take those measly 24 cross points, put them on your tail, put your tail between your legs, and get back on the PORCH, before you get hurt!!
Glider, no pro bases their system on a camera body. Certainly not one with only 24 cross points, sheesh.
Glider, have you ever used a 50mm f1.0? How about taken a portrait with an 85mm f1.2? How about shot indoor sports with a 200mm f1.8. How about shot outdoor sports with a 6 pound 500mm. You don't have to answer, my question was rhetorical. But can you tell us why my question was rhetorical?!
It's the reason Canon sells almost double the cameras that Nikon sells, and the gap is getting bigger, not smaller as you and others say. Those stats are all over the Internet.
At least you finally got VR in your big lenses. Now if Nikon could just put them on a diet, you could at least hold the darn anchors up.
The Super Bowl is coming up. Get yourself a 24 pack, kick back, and count the white lenses.
See you in the morning. ;-)
SS

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Jan 14, 2014 06:10:22   #
winterrose Loc: Kyneton, Victoria, Australia
 
JC56 wrote:
when photographing moving objects it's all about FOCUS I don't care if you focus on the eyes or the ass. If your focus is off or blurry hit the delete button...... no amount of pp will help.....now how do you achieve that tack sharp focus.

1. use a 1000lb tripod...there heavy but stable.
2. use a very fast prime lens....there expensive but if you hit the lotto who cares.
3. buy a canon camera.........their focus system is second to none....and only a couple of bucks more.

I'm a pentax owner but it seems to me that canons lock focus and hold it much better than other brands.

I may be wrong....... opinions are welcome
when photographing moving objects it's all about F... (show quote)


Go away, take a deep breath and study up. When you get your facts right and your act together come back and we can talk. Sharp focus has nothing to do with tripods, shutter speed of fast lenses. You are confusing focus with both camera shake and motion blur. There is a very real difference. As for your one eyed, uninformed bias to Canon. You have obviously never used a D3 or D4. Those monsters meter and anticipate focus between each 10 fps in a burst and each frame is nailed. But by all means play with your Canon camera if you must, until of course you wake up to yourself and decide to get a proper one. Rob.

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Jan 14, 2014 06:16:16   #
PhotoArtsLA Loc: Boynton Beach
 
I have a better idea. Learn to focus. Manually. The dependence on autofocus is the anomaly here. I am so relieved to be using manual lenses on my digital cinema cameras.

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Jan 14, 2014 06:19:44   #
DaveHam Loc: Reading UK
 
JC56 wrote:
3. buy a canon camera.........their focus system is second to none....and only a couple of bucks more.

I'm a pentax owner but it seems to me that canons lock focus and hold it much better than other brands.

I may be wrong....... opinions are welcome


I use both Canon and Nikon pro bodies; for sharp autofocus and speed of autofocus the Nikon is somewhat better than the equivalent Canon except for the D800 where there is no equivalent.

In the DX area there is little to choose between the two assuming that the lenses you use to make the comparisons are equivalents.

One point; with AF the more AF points you use the slower the AF function will be regardless of the brand.

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Jan 14, 2014 06:46:28   #
Nic42 Loc: Cardiff, Wales
 
JC56 wrote:
Nikons are good but canons are the best for action...be it bifs, baseball, football, auto racing....if you shoot moving objects canon is your best bet.

Really? Before the London Olympics there was a huge demand for the Nikon D4 as it was considered to be the best for the action!

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Jan 14, 2014 06:47:45   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
JC56 wrote:
when photographing moving objects it's all about FOCUS I don't care if you focus on the eyes or the ass. If your focus is off or blurry hit the delete button...... no amount of pp will help.....now how do you achieve that tack sharp focus.

1. use a 1000lb tripod...there heavy but stable.
2. use a very fast prime lens....there expensive but if you hit the lotto who cares.
3. buy a canon camera.........their focus system is second to none....and only a couple of bucks more.

I'm a pentax owner but it seems to me that canons lock focus and hold it much better than other brands.

I may be wrong....... opinions are welcome
when photographing moving objects it's all about F... (show quote)


I do the following:

I focus where I'm supposed to and if I miss...I delete. :)

PS: I have ONLY manual focus lenses (just by chance...no real reason) and I have my share of throwaways.

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Jan 14, 2014 06:48:04   #
Nic42 Loc: Cardiff, Wales
 
ClydeSelsor wrote:
Love my Canon!

There's probably a law against that

:wink:

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