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Dec 19, 2013 11:46:12   #
Bloke Loc: Waynesboro, Pennsylvania
 
cogerox wrote:
Right. Which brings me back to my original question - should I have shot this at ISO800 in order to reduce shutter speed to 2.5 secs. I guess that would resolve the motion issue, but not necessarily the blown out moon issue, so two shots are still required to get the shot i want.


My moon shots are taken at much shorter exposures. You have to remember that the moon is basically in full sunlight. My SX50 gives a good result just leaving the mode in 'P'.

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Dec 19, 2013 12:52:04   #
jeep_daddy Loc: Prescott AZ
 
cogerox wrote:
I took this moonset yesterday AM just as dawn was breaking. I am pleased with the shot, but wish the moon was not so blown out. I am assuming this is the result of shooting at a long exposure of 20 secs. I am wondering if I had shot at iso 800 instead of 100, thereby reducing the exposure to 2.5 secs, if the moon would have been clearer. Any and all responses welcome.

Nikon D300
Nikon AF-S DX NIKKOR 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6G ED VR II@ 38mm
Cokin split ND filter
Tripod
f8
20secs
ISO 100

PP in LR5 with Nik plugins
I took this moonset yesterday AM just as dawn was ... (show quote)


I like it.

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Dec 19, 2013 12:54:22   #
chapjohn Loc: Tigard, Oregon
 
The moon is a very bright subject. The best advice is to start with the sunny 16 rule and make adjustments from there. This method is f16, with a shutter speed of 1/ISO speed. Usually this is used with a low ISO 100-200, so sutter speed would be 1/200.

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Dec 19, 2013 13:05:01   #
cogerox Loc: Northern Cal
 
jeep_daddy wrote:
I like it.

Thanks, jeep daddy. Thanks for taking the time to look.

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Dec 19, 2013 13:11:47   #
ggttc Loc: TN
 
Take a look at this link,I was struggling with the same problem just last night

http://www.digital-photo-secrets.com/tip/779/how-to-take-stunning-pictures-of-the-moon/

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Dec 19, 2013 13:17:28   #
cogerox Loc: Northern Cal
 
jeep_daddy wrote:
I like it.

Thanks, jeep daddy. Thanks for taking the time to look.

This link supplied by Meives is a really outstanding free program to help ascertain the moonrise/set, sunrise/set times and locations for your next outing. Thanks again to all.

http://photoephemeris.com/

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Dec 19, 2013 13:28:06   #
Bloke Loc: Waynesboro, Pennsylvania
 
ggttc wrote:
Take a look at this link,I was struggling with the same problem just last night

http://www.digital-photo-secrets.com/tip/779/how-to-take-stunning-pictures-of-the-moon/


The best time to shoot the moon is definitely *not* full moon. When it's full, the light is pretty much vertical to the surface and there are no shadows. Any other time is better. You will see great details along the terminator (not Ahnold, the day/night divider), where the sun will be illuminating peaks, leaving valleys in darkness.

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Dec 19, 2013 13:55:19   #
Meives Loc: FORT LAUDERDALE
 
ggttc wrote:
Take a look at this link,I was struggling with the same problem just last night

http://www.digital-photo-secrets.com/tip/779/how-to-take-stunning-pictures-of-the-moon/


I think your link is the right way to merge the pictures. I just do the two pictures and first use clone to black out the bright moon then I use the magic wand to select the correct moon. I copy that and paste in the landscape. (Aways work on copies) The new picture is PSD Photoshop document. Ctl -V Then Ctrl T I may move the moon if needed and I often make it bigger. Save to JPEG. Done.

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Jan 2, 2014 23:26:32   #
nivek340 Loc: South Hadley Ma.
 
Even if you only have time for a single exposure in some editing programs you can still do a single raw hdr. I have found out this is also a work around for noisy cameras shooting high iso. Just don't push the iso and boost the imagine in post with single hdr in raw. With Paint shop pro you adjust exposure up or down and the spread on the interval of the 3 hdr assumed exposures. with raw there some much you can do.

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Jan 4, 2014 00:15:02   #
manderson Loc: Northeast Nebraska
 
I'm definately not an expert, let's just get that out the way up front. I wonder if lowering your ISO, because the moon is what you are metering I think. Could you use active D-Lighting to get the shadows? I would like one of the pros to weigh in on this.

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Jan 5, 2014 22:10:08   #
SonyBug
 
Recently I read that the moon shot problem is more of focus on either the moon or the landscape. So, the suggestion was to shoot one shot focused on the landscape(and exposed) and then shoot a focused shot on the moon (re exposed). Then, let me think, start a layer with the landscape focus and layer over it with the moon shot focused.

Then paint out the moon layer on the bottom part to show the under layer and merge the two.

Does that sound right? It worked well in the example I saw, but have not had the time to test it yet due to crappy weather in Tennessee :-(

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Jan 9, 2014 01:02:57   #
Smartdoc Loc: Orlando, Florida
 
cogerox wrote:
Right. Which brings me back to my original question - should I have shot this at ISO800 in order to reduce shutter speed to 2.5 secs. I guess that would resolve the motion issue, but not necessarily the blown out moon issue, so two shots are still required to get the shot i want.


I would shoot it at ISO 2000 to 4000 with a Canon EOS 5 III or a Nikon D4.

You have to keep the exposure short to get a sharp moon shot. With today's low noise optical senors you can go for the high ISO shot and still have very little grain or noise

See exposure at ISO 12800 1.8th second f2.8 EOS 5 III 24-105 @33mm

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Jan 9, 2014 09:53:59   #
Meives Loc: FORT LAUDERDALE
 
[quote=Smartdoc]You have the same problem here. Overblown moon. It does not matter what settings you use, you can't take a moon and horizon at the same time. Accept at dusk or dawn with city lights and the moon just riseing or setting. David

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