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Dec 29, 2013 13:34:57   #
BobHartung Loc: Bettendorf, IA
 
amehta wrote:
On what grounds? If they have no licensing agreement, there is no obligation on Nikon's part to tell Sigma how they changed things.


Agree! Nikon has, in my view, only to make sure that their products (read: lens) work with their cameras. Sigma will, no doubt, come out with a 'fix'. This is all a part of the continuous progression of software in the cameras.

In the 70's (I think), Nikon changed their lens' mounts. They updated each of my lens for $10. In addition, all the lenses came back with adjusted focus and had been completely cleaned.

To try and engineer failure of a particular competitor's lens into your firmware would be a waste of money for Nikon or any other manufacturer.

My $0.02

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Dec 29, 2013 13:50:42   #
amehta Loc: Boston
 
BobHartung wrote:
Agree! Nikon has, in my view, only to make sure that their products (read: lens) work with their cameras. Sigma will, no doubt, come out with a 'fix'. This is all a part of the continuous progression of software in the cameras.

In the 70's (I think), Nikon changed their lens' mounts. They updated each of my lens for $10. In addition, all the lenses came back with adjusted focus and had been completely cleaned.

To try and engineer failure of a particular competitor's lens into your firmware would be a waste of money for Nikon or any other manufacturer.

My $0.02
Agree! Nikon has, in my view, only to make sure t... (show quote)

Sigma already has a fix. We only heard about the situation because Sigma basically sent out a recall notice on those lenses to get the lens firmware upgraded.

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Dec 29, 2013 15:58:22   #
authorizeduser Loc: Monroe, Michigan
 
amehta wrote:
On what grounds? If they have no licensing agreement, there is no obligation on Nikon's part to tell Sigma how they changed things.


I agree that no company has be obligation to another when if come to improvements but it is a difference story when a company make a change in such a way with the sole intention of injuring a competitor and preventing competition. I am implying this is what Nikon has deliberately done and a lot of instances what appears to be a malicious act turns out to be nothing more than an accident due to normal improvements. But .... there have been times where companies have tried to engineer a competitor out of business and have paid dearly for the attempt.

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Dec 29, 2013 16:20:46   #
romanticf16 Loc: Commerce Twp, MI
 
SonyA580 wrote:
Recent articles indicate Nikon has altered their camera software to deliberately preclude the use of Sigma lenses on some Nikon bodies. I don't know which models are affected, or if other third party lenses are included in the design change, but Nikon/Sigma users, and the photo community in general, are pretty upset about the whole thing.


Didn't it just involve "Live view", not general use?

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Dec 29, 2013 16:23:24   #
romanticf16 Loc: Commerce Twp, MI
 
Linda Roina wrote:
I seem to be having problem with Sigma lenses. Occasionally I end up with black photos with no exif data. The photos before and after this happening are fine. No problem at all. I sent one of the lenses to Sigma because I thought it was a lens problem but they could find nothing wrong, now I am thinking connection problem with the camera itself. I hate to send it in if it is something I am doing. There seems to be no problem with the Nikon lenses. The camera itself takes beautiful pictures other than the totally black ones. I would include a photo but there is no data on them.
I seem to be having problem with Sigma lenses. Occ... (show quote)

Are you using "Live view"? Sigma has a software upgrade to fix a problem with that issue.

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Dec 29, 2013 16:31:46   #
amehta Loc: Boston
 
romanticf16 wrote:
Are you using "Live view"? Sigma has a software upgrade to fix a problem with that issue.

We don't even know if the OP has any of the cameras affected by this situation.

We've digressed so much from the original question it's almost funny. Except the OP hasn't been back to answer any questions, so we might as well keep taking random guesses which have absolutely nothing to do with her problem...

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Dec 29, 2013 16:53:30   #
amehta Loc: Boston
 
authorizeduser wrote:
I agree that no company has be obligation to another when if come to improvements but it is a difference story when a company make a change in such a way with the sole intention of injuring a competitor and preventing competition. I am implying this is what Nikon has deliberately done and a lot of instances what appears to be a malicious act turns out to be nothing more than an accident due to normal improvements. But .... there have been times where companies have tried to engineer a competitor out of business and have paid dearly for the attempt.
I agree that no company has be obligation to anoth... (show quote)

Nikon has always claimed to be a "closed" system, so they expect you to use a Nikon lens and flash with a Nikon body. Almost all companies do this in the computer age. Everyone defines the space in which their product operates, things outside that space need to work with other products, things within that space can be kept proprietary. Each company then has to decide just how hard they want to work to keep the stuff proprietary.

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