Bob Yankle Loc: Burlington, NC

Mdorn, you last edit looks infinitely better than your original. You almost have to think of monchrome as you would a color photo - different shades of grey represent different colors, the almost blacks are black, brown, and navy blue, the mid colors are green and red and purple, the ligher shades are yellow, orange, light blues. Control points are going to become you best friend because you change the "color value" (actually, different contrasts of the color grey) about your picture. You do NOT want blown out values (pure white), nor do you want pure black which sucks in your eyesight and won't let it out again. You can give a picture an overall dark look, by toning down all the values approaching charcoal grey, but never go black (well some people get away with it, but they're very good at it).

mdorn Loc: Portland, OR

Thanks for your help and great feedback. I love B&W photography, but it's not as easy as some people think. I'll keep practicing. :-)

Bob Yankle Loc: Burlington, NC

I'm just glad I didn't matte it (although I had a great one in mind). I read a reply of your's on Minniev's Dead Water Lilies Redux that you didn't think much of them.

mdorn Loc: Portland, OR

Yeah, I'm not a big fan of digital framing, but again... that's just me. Don't misunderstand, I like frames and some can make or break a good shot, but I'd rather consider them after I see the print and the wall it's intended to hang on first. :-)

smcaleer Loc: Dearborn Heights, Michigan

I like the edits you made (taking out the wispy clouds and correcting for the wide angle barreling). I get a dramatic feel from your photo. It's beautiful.

mdorn Loc: Portland, OR

Thanks. It's really nice to bounce these photos off this group. Sometimes I get so fixated on composition, I miss the technical stuff. Post processing really is our friend. Thanks for you comments. -Mark