B & W Attempt
Nov 28, 2013 06:15:20 #
nairiam wrote:
Once again, I think you have identified my weakness - I don't recognise a potential monochrome. I see your remark regarding the middle section as being devoid of contrast, but point out there are no distant hills, only cloud behind the treeline except for a smidgen on the LHS. The RHS shows sunlight under that cloud.
Thank you so much for looking and taking the time to comment.
Thank you so much for looking and taking the time to comment.
Ooops! My bad, they are clouds... It was way past my bedtime when I posted :-)
Graham
Nov 28, 2013 06:20:03 #
JR1 wrote:
Please not people have been banned for adjusting others photos on this forum
Thank you for your input.
I understand that in this Forum the editing of posts is normal otherwise an opt-out is required. I post on this basis.
Nov 28, 2013 07:49:34 #
The relationship of the active clouds at the top of your photo and the village below, and what the clouds are causing to happen to that village is the story told in this photo, for me.
So, if I were a talented 'post-er or pp'er' like so many on this forum are, I would think about brightening the clouds at the top (and by all means keep them) and cut out a part of the middle section that is very light and happy, and merge the top and bottom back into one photo. The visual space between the two would be decreased and the impact of the clouds on the village would become much more relevant and easy to see.
If that were the view out of MY sunroom, I would undoubtedly spend tons of time there enjoying the beauty of God's amazing creations. You are very fortunate to have such an amazing view.
Interesting photo, I hope you repost with some of the suggestions that have been made by others and myself.
So, if I were a talented 'post-er or pp'er' like so many on this forum are, I would think about brightening the clouds at the top (and by all means keep them) and cut out a part of the middle section that is very light and happy, and merge the top and bottom back into one photo. The visual space between the two would be decreased and the impact of the clouds on the village would become much more relevant and easy to see.
If that were the view out of MY sunroom, I would undoubtedly spend tons of time there enjoying the beauty of God's amazing creations. You are very fortunate to have such an amazing view.
Interesting photo, I hope you repost with some of the suggestions that have been made by others and myself.
Nov 28, 2013 07:52:09 #
nairiam wrote:
Thank you for your input.
I understand that in this Forum the editing of posts is normal otherwise an opt-out is required. I post on this basis.
I understand that in this Forum the editing of posts is normal otherwise an opt-out is required. I post on this basis.
No you have to ASK permission not do it its in the rules
Nov 28, 2013 08:06:54 #
JR1 wrote:
No you have to ASK permission not do it its in the rules
It's a little different in this sub-forum:
"Welcome to the Photo Critique & Analysis Forum
1) By submitting a photo you are automatically asking for critique and advice on how to improve. Checking the (store original) box gives permission for others to edit your photo and or may make it easier for them to critique. If you do not want others to edit your photos you must clearly specify this. If someone edits without permission please send a Private Message (PM) to Nightski or Country's Mama.
Nightski http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/user_profile.jsp?usernum=28288
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So if you click "store original", you are granting permission to edit....
Nov 28, 2013 08:26:29 #
jonsommer wrote:
The relationship of the active clouds at the top of your photo and the village below, and what the clouds are causing to happen to that village is the story told in this photo, for me.
relevant and easy to see.
relevant and easy to see.
Thanks so much for your input. I am not a talented PPer, using only very basic Imaging programs.
I do take a few images over the year and since I don't get about much I spend most of my time at this location. It gets a bit like we all tend to be; where we live doesn't attract because we don't notice. The subconscious says it's just the same as we see every day, therefore not photogenic. I admit I have to make a conscious effort to "look" at what's around me, even though I live in a very scenic area.
Your comments are appreciated.
Nov 28, 2013 08:45:58 #
nairiam wrote:
Thanks so much for your input. I am not a talente... (show quote)
Would you give us permission to add our own PP efforts to your own?
Nov 28, 2013 08:47:41 #
Bob Yankle wrote:
Would you give us permission to add our own PP efforts to your own?
Yes please, that would help me greatly
Nov 28, 2013 10:00:43 #
nairiam wrote:
Yes please, that would help me greatly
I borrowed heavily from a previous crop by Linda from Maine, and a comment by Graham that you needed more contrast in the middle levels. This work was done in NIK Software's Silver Efex Pro, with a goodly number of Control Points to individually blend elements of the photo. I toyed with the idea of removing the banisters from the foreground but discovered that it acted as a solid anchor point from one which one could scan across the village directly toward the sunburst erupting from the clouds.
This is best viewed in Download mode.
Variant on B & W Attempt
Nov 28, 2013 10:44:08 #
Bob Yankle wrote:
I borrowed heavily from a previous crop by Linda f... (show quote)
All you've done is transformed nothing into a beautiful image.
Thanks you so much for taking the time and effort, (Applies to everyone).
I like the idea that the C & C given and the manner in which it is given allows me to detach any emotion from the scene and view it as an impersonal image.
It's not easy to express my full gratitude.
Nov 28, 2013 11:07:16 #
Bob Yankle wrote:
I borrowed heavily from a previous crop by Linda f... (show quote)
I think there are two major versions based upon how one crops the original. Bob's crop here is certainly reasonable but too conventional for my liking.
I like this sky a lot and think it has a lot of potential. I like big, dramatic, brooding skies and clouds. Here is my take on it. No cropping. In LR, I set the tonal curve to high contrast. I then broke the picture up into four horizontal zones using adjustment brushes with different settings. Probably could have done the same thing with Viveza.
This is just a quick down and dirty edit.
Bob
Nov 28, 2013 11:13:50 #
abc1234 wrote:
I think there are two major versions based upon ho... (show quote)
I am so torn now. This is the effect I envisaged but I was also taken with the cropped contributions. Looks like if I had the correct program it is achievable. Whether or not I would ever attain your level of skill is another matter!
Thank you so much for what you have done.
Nov 28, 2013 11:22:51 #
nairiam wrote:
I am so torn now. This is the effect I envisaged but I was also taken with the cropped contributions. Looks like if I had the correct program it is achievable. Whether or not I would ever attain your level of skill is another matter!
Thank you so much for what you have done.
Thank you so much for what you have done.
Thank you for the compliment. More experience than skill or talent. I have been printing since 1959 and had an outstanding mentor. The learning process starts with looking at many photos, developing your own likes and dislikes, a/k/a style or vision, and then acquiring the tools and techniques for realizing your vision. I am sure you can do it too. You just have to know where you are going with a picture.
You do not necessarily need fancy or expensive software. What do you have?
Nov 28, 2013 11:48:51 #
abc1234 wrote:
Thank you for the compliment. More experience than skill or talent. I have been printing since 1959 and had an outstanding mentor. The learning process starts with looking at many photos, developing your own likes and dislikes, a/k/a style or vision, and then acquiring the tools and techniques for realizing your vision. I am sure you can do it too. You just have to know where you are going with a picture.
You do not necessarily need fancy or expensive software. What do you have?
You do not necessarily need fancy or expensive software. What do you have?
Thanks again. I use Zoner Studio15, Photofiltre7, Faststone and now trying easyHDR.
Photofiltre is my most used because I have used for many years, does most of what I want in the way of cropping, cloning, lighting, etc. It is user friendly, I know we all feel that way about 'our' program, but it was definitely not a steep learning curve. I've looked at GIMP, but I think I am too old to bothered to learn.
Nov 28, 2013 11:56:03 #
abc1234 wrote:
I think there are two major versions based upon how one crops the original. Bob's crop here is certainly reasonable but too conventional for my liking.
This is just a quick down and dirty edit.
Bob
This is just a quick down and dirty edit.
Bob
Bob, now that you've got the down and dirty completed, could you go ahead and complete it? I think it would be an interesing comparison with my conventional treatement (I notice we have a different interpretation of the tonal ranges).
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