Before & After An Open Challenge A Look At Composition
Nov 28, 2013 00:49:30 #
Rbrylawski wrote:
I really REALLY appreciate you taking the time to offer your thoughts and for me, education. But to my non-professionally trained eye, I prefer the first (not cropped) picture. I think the sense of space and depth is simply amazing, which is simply not in the cropped version.
Again, thank you for taking the time to write about this. I understand what you were going for, but I think the picture example didn't bring your point home as well as it could have.
Again, thank you for taking the time to write about this. I understand what you were going for, but I think the picture example didn't bring your point home as well as it could have.
Laf! Happy Holidays!
Nov 28, 2013 00:49:52 #
Bmac wrote:
I believe what Steve would like folks to do is take a photograph, then crop from the inside out following his procedure, and finally to post both images here on the thread, explaining your thought process relative to Steve's challenge.
That's it in a nutshell (I think), if not, hopefully Steve will correct me. 8-)
P.S. Happy Thanksgiving everyone! :)
That's it in a nutshell (I think), if not, hopefully Steve will correct me. 8-)
P.S. Happy Thanksgiving everyone! :)
BINGO! Happy Holidays!
Nov 28, 2013 00:50:41 #
bedgmon wrote:
Steve, please give me some time. I may not get to the assignment until late next week. I AM going to work this one, but two toddlers at my house until next week will limit me.
I will be anxious to see other's results. :)
I will be anxious to see other's results. :)
I'm leaving it open. Happy Holidays!
Nov 28, 2013 00:52:34 #
Elliern wrote:
I understand the lesson, but I think a better subject might have been selected.
To me, it is not simply that the barn is the focal point. But the barn that is all alone, in the middle if that vast open prarie. With nothing between it and the snow topped mountain.
In the cropped photo, it is simply a photo of a barn with a snow topped mountain behind it. It loses the emotion and 'feel' of the original.
To me, it is not simply that the barn is the focal point. But the barn that is all alone, in the middle if that vast open prarie. With nothing between it and the snow topped mountain.
In the cropped photo, it is simply a photo of a barn with a snow topped mountain behind it. It loses the emotion and 'feel' of the original.
I love these discussions! Happy Holidays!
Nov 28, 2013 00:53:15 #
bedgmon wrote:
For all of you that are disappointed about the given example, I suggest you go to the forum that sparked the idea. In our excitement, it was suggested that Steve give an opportunity for us to post. I am extremely interested in getting better at composition and I wish to have more ideas and exercises with feedback that will help. In an old saying, "Don't throw the baby out with the bath water." Please encourage.
Laf and Thank You! Happy Holidays!
Nov 28, 2013 06:59:41 #
Every image can be cropped in a dozen different ways and what's "right" is really in the eye of the beholder. To the author of this thread, thanks for showing me another way to "look" at my images, really. I never thought of viewing
crops from the inside out, very cool.Looking forward to how my next batch of images appear.
crops from the inside out, very cool.Looking forward to how my next batch of images appear.
Nov 28, 2013 07:07:47 #
Nov 28, 2013 07:15:21 #
andrew.haysom
Loc: Melbourne, Australia
I like this thought process.
I'd probably crop this one like this.
I would have liked a little more room at the left of the barn in the original.
I'd probably crop this one like this.
I would have liked a little more room at the left of the barn in the original.
Nov 28, 2013 07:20:48 #
I am going to be odd man out here.
I do not feel comparing the two photos is fair. Going from color to sepia changes the perception considerably and alters how we feel about the crop. The only thing I agree about is getting rid of the grass. The rest is a matter of one's own taste. (A little too tight for me but the uncropped picture is good because it shows the enormity of a "big sky" space.)
However, the real issues with the shot are not the cropping but the unsharpness and uninteresting tonal range. The sky and mountain have such potential. I would fix those before worrying about the cropping.
I do not feel comparing the two photos is fair. Going from color to sepia changes the perception considerably and alters how we feel about the crop. The only thing I agree about is getting rid of the grass. The rest is a matter of one's own taste. (A little too tight for me but the uncropped picture is good because it shows the enormity of a "big sky" space.)
However, the real issues with the shot are not the cropping but the unsharpness and uninteresting tonal range. The sky and mountain have such potential. I would fix those before worrying about the cropping.
Nov 28, 2013 07:26:39 #
OKAY,
I tried what you suggested. The before is the "center cut" from the inside out.
Very pretty but what you would expect.
The wider version which includes the beach and landscape around is my after.
In this case I love the wide cause it's much more open and I love as much negative space in a shot that I can get away with.
Like I said you could crop a dozen ways before you settle on one.
Thanks for the new way to see things. (love that)
-V
I tried what you suggested. The before is the "center cut" from the inside out.
Very pretty but what you would expect.
The wider version which includes the beach and landscape around is my after.
In this case I love the wide cause it's much more open and I love as much negative space in a shot that I can get away with.
Like I said you could crop a dozen ways before you settle on one.
Thanks for the new way to see things. (love that)
-V
before
after
Nov 28, 2013 07:35:56 #
Nobody has mentioned that the barn is way to close to the edge of the photo....to me that is the main problem...no matter how you crop or fix it , it will not improve the photo..I know,I know..it is only an example,but let's see what happens.
Nov 28, 2013 07:52:21 #
dragonswing wrote:
The cropped photo looks a bit squished to me.
Me too! I liked the first one better!
Nov 28, 2013 08:11:24 #
Have a go at this one...a field of almost gone sunflowers I found awhile ago. Neither of which I like very much...but for some reason that single flower keep my eye.
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Nov 28, 2013 08:20:25 #
Bret wrote:
Have a go at this one...a field of almost gone sunflowers I found awhile ago. Neither of which I like very much...but for some reason that single flower keep my eye.
That single flower was a different shot. Different perspective. Which do you want to crop? By the way , I like the first as is!
Nov 28, 2013 08:22:18 #
Even though I take lot of photos, I don't consider myself a photographer in the sense of the word. I am a painter, and the cropped photo does not evoke any emotion in me. But the original is another story. Cropping had centered everything and also lost that wide open space feeling, creating another mundane everyday ordinary shot.
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