That only the good guys are supposed to follow.
Bangee5 wrote:
There are Rules of Engagement. Do not fire unless fired upon could be the most stupid rule of all. But to put a bullet into the head of a wounded enemy combatant is murder. I don't care whose side you are fighting on. The enemy combatant should have been taken as a prisoner of war. That are the rules.
Dave B
Loc: Ramsey,Cambridgeshire UK
Bangee5 wrote:
There are Rules of Engagement. Do not fire unless fired upon could be the most stupid rule of all. But to put a bullet into the head of a wounded enemy combatant is murder. I don't care whose side you are fighting on. The enemy combatant should have been taken as a prisoner of war. That are the rules.
For rules to work both sides would need to abide by them. Does any one out there actually think the Taliban and all the other "west hating" scum do or would abide by any rules of war? Anyway the point of any war is kill the enemy-there are no rules!
It has been a long time since wars included the leaders in battle! Our modern wars are always old men sending young men out to die!
The "do not fire unless fired upon" rule, may work for the police in a hostage situation. But not for a soldier in a war zone. The Genever Convention, is the most stupid idea ever. It's a war not a game. If war wasn't brutal, there would be no reason to bring it to an end.
Wellhiem wrote:
The "do not fire unless fired upon" rule, may work for the police in a hostage situation. But not for a soldier in a war zone. The Genever Convention, is the most stupid idea ever. It's a war not a game. If war wasn't brutal, there would be no reason to bring it to an end.
I agree Wellhiem, but someone else may not. Break a rule of engagement and it is jail time. Remember Lieutenant William Calley and the My Lai Massacre? I am sorry to be on the opposite side of you guys but war dose not give us a licenses to kill. The Germans who fought against us thought their cause was a just cause. A soldier fights for his Country out of a sense of pride and commitment for her. Was the Viet Nam war a just war? Where we right to be there? Maybe not but we had committed ourselves to a cause. War is not right to Begin with.
dlwhawaii wrote:
Sorry Bangee5, but the Geneva Convention is not recognized by the ragheads. They do not take prisoners and treat them humanely. They torture, behead, dismember, etc any infidel (us) captured. Upon what planet have you been living or better yet, in what era in order to believe that they treat our guys humanely? :?: :?:
Exactly. You're dealing with jackals that have no regard for human life. You expect them to treat a POW decently? Go back to watching Hogan's Heroes. Then watch Blackhawk Down. And then look at some photos from Benghazi. :shock:
The greater the distance is when you kill someone, the more socially acceptable it seems. Kill hundreds with a missile thatÂ’s not to bad, kill one man with your bare hands you are a brute.
dlwhawaii wrote:
Sorry Bangee5, but the Geneva Convention is not recognized by the ragheads. They do not take prisoners and treat them humanely. They torture, behead, dismember, etc any infidel (us) captured. Upon what planet have you been living or better yet, in what era in order to believe that they treat our guys humanely? :?: :?:
As an ex-Servicemen, (Cyprus was my only exposure to terrorism), I know what Servicemen are CAPABLE of! That does'nt mean that inhumanity is the prerogative of the 'great unwashed' , BUT the Royals should NOT have been put on trial!As the correspondent said, "A law degree is now a necessity for those sent into danger!
sirlensalot wrote:
Sounds like once again, they have put the soldiers in a no win situation. More the modern politics than supporting our front line troops thanks to our gutless wonders in D.C. I guess our soldiers need a law degree before heading into combat zones.
Please note: my remarks were in response to a post by our Australian friends, and NOT a general observation on this particular situation. The Serviceman is good enough to squeeze the trigger on behalf of those who sit in judgement. The Royals should NOT have faced trial for their actions.
Re:The Brittish Marine who has been convicted of murder.
I do hope he gets a minimal sentence for his actions.
One has to remember though, as we read in the media, the afghan fighter had been hit several times by 30 calibre rounds from an Apache helicopter, to me, it was miracle he was still alive but certainly, his fighting days were over. His weapons should have been taken from him and he left where he was for his mates to rescue him. He was no longer a threat.
The incident was video recorded and later the film was down loaded onto the marines personal laptop, WHY??
To the ordinary man in the street, it looks like the marine wanted to brag to his mates in the pub back in the UK and display his trophy.
The video was discovered on the lap top by members of the brittish Military Police. who must have brought it to the attention of the civilian police.
To recap, I am only stating what we the brittish public read in our press.
Even enemy ' scumbags ' should be shown some respect when they are on the brink of death.
All those present at the shooting were well aware they were breaking the rules of prisoner treatment as declared by the Genever Convention.
nippy norman wrote:
We have a situation in afghanistan Where heavy fighting was in play and during this, a trio of marines came upon a wounded man who was the enemy.The sargeant in charge decided it would be safer if he wasn;t there, He took his revolver out and they all agreed that the sargeant Shoot him. He later stated that he was under the opinion that he was already dead. He has been charged with murder by our political correct heads of staff who have probably never been in action.I also would have shot the dirty bastard if it had been me..The enemy usually hang body parts up to cause anger amongst the brave men out there. He has been found guilty and likely to spend a long time in a civilian prison
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I'm sure that one of those three lads saw the wounded enemy reach for a weapon - didn't he?
jeep_daddy wrote:
I'm sure that one of those three lads saw the wounded enemy reach for a weapon - didn't he?
:thumbup: Here's a hint. Disable the camera next time. :thumbup:
Maybe we need to tell our guys on the battle field to do what they think is right, and then forget about it.
jim quist wrote:
Maybe we need to tell our guys on the battle field to do what they think is right, and then forget about it.
I would agree, BUT, who decides what is right?
That opens up a whole can of worms. My dad, two brothers, myself and currently my son serve(d) in the military during one war or another. In that particular instance the group was unanimous in their decision. Not saying its right or wrong, but it seemed right to them at the time. So let it go, stuff happens during war, its that simple.
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