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rpavich and Wellhiem discussion: Does God exist?
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Nov 9, 2013 16:22:41   #
MyPharo Loc: New Jersey
 
We all look for a god .. Depending on who you are, the god changes .. when one believes his god is better than yours... The true intention of GOD and the Belief in him changes to a poor pissing contest .. Over the Centuries we have killed to make out god better .. but n fact when has this God Killed in his own name ? When people Quot e the Bible, Torah, Quran or any other book written by men, Not their GOD .. How many who preach about the Bible actually follow it in its Entirety .. ? I mean really follow it and not just the parts they agree with .. Personally I believe in Science. But I do not condemn you or any one else for believing in your/ their God .. I do condemn you if you feel its is your Right to force your religion on me or any one else . So lets all live in peace and believe as we like and just be nice to one another ..

Wellhiem wrote:
Sorry Bangee I have to stop you there. You do not remember the birth of Jesus. You do not remember his death. You were told about it and I doubt you remember the first time you were told about it. It's what's called a semantic memory, not an episodic memory.



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Nov 9, 2013 17:50:42   #
leftyD500 Loc: Ocala, Florida
 
If that is the best you can do, MagicRay, I don't blame you for trying to be a stand up comedian. But, a word of advice, don't quit your day job.

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Nov 9, 2013 17:51:17   #
magicray Loc: Tampa Bay, Florida
 
Bangee5 wrote:
Now Ray, calm down. That little girl was pulling your leg. Mickey Mouse is not real and he is not hiding someplace in the world. Or maybe you could have said, look little girl, mickey is cartoon character and thought up by a guy name Walt Disney. I am sure that she would understand.
However Ray, you need to be a bit realistic in your thinking. If I gave you proof that God is real you would not accept it. You don't want God to be real. Logic tells me that God is real. My whole Being tells me that God is real. My life experience tells me that God is real. All that I know and have learned, yes and what I have been taught. God has made himself real to me because I wanted to know. I have the proof that God is real within me but I can not give it to you. I can only tell you about it. But you don't want to hear about it Ray. It is too silly for you, too unreal, too unbelievable for you. So, I have the proof but you don't and if I could give it to you, you won't accept it.
No man can prove God exist to another's satisfaction if that man is unwilling to accept by faith that God is.
Now Ray, calm down. That little girl was pulling y... (show quote)
Then you are admitting that there is no proof. Of course there isn't. Can you PROVE that Mickey Mouse is not hiding in a closet somewhere? Faith in itself is not PROOF of anything. That's why it is called FAITH. If you gave me proof that god is real I would accept it. The problem is you can't. You say he is REAL because he is real to you, well Mickey Mouse was real to that little girl just as god is real to you.

Mickey Mouse is a cartoon character, but is this how Jesus really looked?
Mickey Mouse is a cartoon character, but is this h...

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Nov 9, 2013 17:57:31   #
magicray Loc: Tampa Bay, Florida
 
bullfrogs wrote:
God did kick his ass at the cross. Jesus bowed his head and said, "It is Finished". Meaning He had accomplished what God had sent Him to do. To make a propiation for all sin for all time to everyone. And gave up his spirit to God.
bullfrogs
Where did you read that? I'm sure you didn't make it up your silly little self. Did Pastor Fuzz tell you that or did you read it somewhere in the bable? I think if Jesus died on the cross then it was the devil that kicked his ass.

:twisted:

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Nov 9, 2013 18:02:04   #
magicray Loc: Tampa Bay, Florida
 
jradose wrote:
If that is the best you can do, MagicRay, I don't blame you for trying to be a stand up comedian. But, a word of advice, don't quit your day job.
How about some actual refutations? Do you have any? I thought not.

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Nov 9, 2013 18:08:23   #
busted_shutter
 
God made man in his image. Is God then white, black, hispanic? Maybe indian, or even american indian? Oriental?

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Nov 9, 2013 18:23:49   #
magicray Loc: Tampa Bay, Florida
 
busted_shutter wrote:
God made man in his image. Is God then white, black, hispanic? Maybe indian, or even american indian? Oriental?
He is a white Anglo-Saxon Christian Baptist male.

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Nov 9, 2013 18:23:50   #
CSand Loc: Fayetteville, Georgia
 
Hello Magicray, We differ but that is okay. Many of us if not most of us that now know the reality of Christ had questions, thoughts and opinions as you do. Paul in the Bible persecuted believers and look at what God did with his life. Your quote " a leopard doesn't change it's spots" is true and neither do we humans. The very fact that my life "spots" were changed and I know with out question I did not do it is all the proof that I need to know there is a living God and He loves me and loves you. Not science but thousands of changed lives from the worst of the worst to even those who were pretty good folks compared to the evil in this world-changed lives in very profound ways confirms that He is the I Am. I will not argue with you but would enjoy conversation with you. My words won't change your opinion but as we speak -He is near and it is His grace alone that changes hearts.

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Nov 9, 2013 19:07:53   #
busted_shutter
 
magicray wrote:
He is a white Anglo-Saxon Christian Baptist male.


Sounds racist to me, unless said in jest, but then again maybe a racist joke.

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Nov 9, 2013 19:20:30   #
Bangee5 Loc: Louisiana
 
busted_shutter wrote:
God made man in his image. Is God then white, black, hispanic? Maybe indian, or even american indian? Oriental?


God is Spirit. We are created in the image of his Spirit. You are too earth bound.

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Nov 9, 2013 19:26:45   #
TrainNut Loc: Ridin' the rails
 
magicray wrote:
He is a white Anglo-Saxon Christian Baptist male.


Hey magicray, if you were God would you want to associate with someone that "makes fun" of you all the time?

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Nov 9, 2013 19:28:02   #
Bangee5 Loc: Louisiana
 
magicray wrote:
Then you are admitting that there is no proof. Of course there isn't. Can you PROVE that Mickey Mouse is not hiding in a closet somewhere? Faith in itself is not PROOF of anything. That's why it is called FAITH. If you gave me proof that god is real I would accept it. The problem is you can't. You say he is REAL because he is real to you, well Mickey Mouse was real to that little girl just as god is real to you.


I did not say there was no proof. I said, the proof is within me. It is my proof. I can tell you about it but you can not take it from me. You have tried but you can't. God gave me assurance that he truly exist.
As for Mickey hiding. Be an adult and the little girl the truth. If it were Minnie mouse who told you. See a doctor.

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Nov 9, 2013 19:32:36   #
CSand Loc: Fayetteville, Georgia
 
TrainNut, He would be delighted to "sit down and sup" with everyone of us. His love has a depth beyond human understanding. Sandy

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Nov 9, 2013 19:36:05   #
Bill gomberg
 
Paraphraseing ; " That which is claimed without evidence can be ignored without evidence " .
Christopher Hitchens .

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Nov 9, 2013 19:37:44   #
Bangee5 Loc: Louisiana
 
Bill gomberg wrote:
Paraphraseing ; " That which is claimed without evidence can be ignored without evidence " .
Christopher Hitchens .


Good God man! Look who you are quoting!

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