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Nov 1, 2013 03:30:33   #
mcveed Loc: Kelowna, British Columbia (between trips)
 
bull drink water wrote:
to those who know more than me. would shooting in raw and converting it to tiff make a difference?


Yes. So would shooting it with a medium format digital or a D800. The more pixels in the original the less enlargement needed to get to where you want to be.

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Nov 1, 2013 07:46:00   #
RichieC Loc: Adirondacks
 
bull drink water wrote:
to those who know more than me. would shooting in raw and converting it to tiff make a difference?


Raw is 12 or 14 bit... every pixels' color is described with 12-14 decimal places... tif or jpeg use just 8. That means even though the pixels look the same color, there may be tiny differences. Raw is a logarithmic scale- 4 times the resolution of 8 bit... This is per channel- so final figure multiplied again by three ( RGB Channels). - the difference in image information is profound. _ well depends if you captured it all... 14 bit photo of black will return a black photo. LOL

When enlarging, you'll use every "bit" of this info- pardon the pun. It will (should) return a better result. It will return the best result possible.. lets say it that way.

I am interested in seeing this wall!

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Nov 1, 2013 08:01:57   #
haroldross Loc: Walthill, Nebraska
 
rebride wrote:
To judge these don't all need to be cropped the same?


The sections are shown at 100% to show difference. So I think that makes for a fair comparison.

To answer another question, using the RAW would result in just a little improvement. For the sake of my time, I just used the JPEG SOOC to illustrate the differences in magnification and software.

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Nov 1, 2013 10:03:42   #
steveg48
 
FYI 14 bits is equivalent to 2 to the 13th power or 8192. This is equivalent to only 8 decimal places, not 14.
1/8192=0.00012207
1/8191=0.00012209

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Nov 1, 2013 10:42:49   #
jim quist Loc: Missouri
 
yes

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Nov 1, 2013 12:21:58   #
RichieC Loc: Adirondacks
 
steveg48 wrote:
FYI 14 bits is equivalent to 2 to the 13th power or 8192. This is equivalent to only 8 decimal places, not 14.
1/8192=0.00012207
1/8191=0.00012209


You are very technically correct... I forgot the binary system of 1- 20. However the premise is the same.

8 bit returns 256 possible tones- per channel ( This is JPEG )
12 bit returns 4,000 possible tones per channel
14 bit returns 16,0000 possible tones per channel

An 8-bit jpeg can represent around 16 million colors, whereas a high bit-depth file can represent over 28 billion

However,,, lol thank you for reminding me... studied it 30 years ago when I took Fortran and Pascal... . I do strive to be accurate.

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Nov 1, 2013 12:55:04   #
Kuzano
 
Talk to billboard/sign companies. They do this all the time and may have some suggestions for sources.

Naturally, their work is not for close up viewing, but somewhere between 8X10 inches, and a 20 X40 foot bill board is a wall size solution.

After all, you can buy wall size murals all over the internet that have dimensions for walls,,, perhaps a printer who specializes in such things?

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Nov 1, 2013 12:57:07   #
Kuzano
 
steveg48 wrote:
FYI 14 bits is equivalent to 2 to the 13th power or 8192. This is equivalent to only 8 decimal places, not 14.
1/8192=0.00012207
1/8191=0.00012209



Are you allowing for the Giffengander and Hoofenschnoffel differentials? What about the Ghergenschlam hypothesis?

Sheldon C
Head Honcho... BBT

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Nov 1, 2013 12:58:29   #
Kuzano
 
RichieC wrote:
Figure out what the magnification will be to achieve the coverage he wants... you should run it through some fractal program like they mention. It will definitely improve the final product. Then print a sample at 16 x 20 or so of some detail- I suppose around the elks eyes...... put it on the wall and see if it will work for him before you go to print!

Even pixelated, when you stand back far enough to take it in. I am betting it will be fine. Up close it will fall apart into large pixels- but who cares!
Figure out what the magnification will be to achie... (show quote)


Perhaps the North wall of an East/West Gymnasium....

It's been said on this forum and many others, proper viewing distance is the diagonal dimension of the image. Pixel Peekers perpetually deny this "suggestion".

:thumbup:

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Nov 1, 2013 13:17:32   #
RichieC Loc: Adirondacks
 
Kuzano wrote:
Are you allowing for the Giffengander and Hoofenschnoffel differentials? What about the Ghergenschlam hypothesis?

Sheldon C
Head Honcho... BBT


AssH_le..... ROFL!

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Nov 1, 2013 20:26:18   #
jim quist Loc: Missouri
 
Good one Kuzano

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Nov 2, 2013 08:04:06   #
murm Loc: Adelaide, Australia
 
I used to use Genuine Fractals, many years ago that worked well. I think it is now Perfect Resize !

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Nov 2, 2013 08:31:20   #
Capn_Dave
 
Kuzano wrote:
Are you allowing for the Giffengander and Hoofenschnoffel differentials? What about the hypothesis?

Sheldon C
Head Honcho... BBT


:cry: Her Voltstickum disproved the Ghergenschlam Hypothesis last year. Chees it really sucks when people cannot stay up on their math. Next thing you know people will think there is free health insurance

:thumbup: :roll:

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