Objective reporting (Page 7): A very well known photo was the flag raising at I believe Iwojima(sp). Famous but staged from what a photographer saw but didn't shoot in real time. So a...

screen48 Loc: Northwest IL

A very well known photo was the flag raising at I believe Iwojima(sp). Famous but staged from what a photographer saw but didn't shoot in real time. So a photo can lie.

How can a reporter even unbiased report truth when the leader of our country as well as others tell half truths and lies representing them as fact?

cindy11 Loc: Honeoye Falls, NY

screen48 wrote:

A very well known photo was the flag raising at I believe Iwojima(sp). Famous but staged from what a photographer saw but didn't shoot in real time. So a photo can lie.

How can a reporter even unbiased report truth when the leader of our country as well as others tell half truths and lies representing them as fact?

I couldn't agree with you more.

Pepper Loc: Planet Earth Country USA

Im a Bronco fan so please forgive my bias but I think the outcome of the Broncos/Steelers game fits in nicely with this topic. Poor Ike Taylor is getting all kinds of heat for losing the game and why? Because his mistake of being late getting back into coverage was on camera for all to see. While the fact is that Denver scored as a result did indeed win the game thats only part of the story. What about every other play in the game on both sides of the ball? Every play had missed assignments, dropped passes, poorly thrown passes, missed tackles, missed blocks and on and on. Any one of those mistakes may have contributed to the outcome of the game and had as much of an impact as Ike Taylors mistake. You watch the reports however and all you see is poor Ike Taylor blowing his assignment, he gets the blame everyone else gets a pass. Its as if the other 59 minutes and 50 seconds werent even played

forbescat

I like the WSJ version. It's about winning against the odds instead of losing because of mistakes. I wonder if Tim Tebow has any idea how many fans he has across the country.

Mac Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.

screen48 wrote:

A very well known photo was the flag raising at I believe Iwojima(sp). Famous but staged from what a photographer saw but didn't shoot in real time. So a photo can lie.

How can a reporter even unbiased report truth when the leader of our country as well as others tell half truths and lies representing them as fact?

The well known picture you refer to wasn't staged. A smaller flag was raised first and an officer sent for a larger flag. The raising of the larger flag is what was photographed. The photographer wasn't on Mt. Suribachi at the time of the first flag raising, but was for the second.

RMM Loc: Suburban New York

Well, if you want to be that way about it, the photo of MacArthur coming off the landing craft when he returned to the Philippines was also shot more than once until it was "right."

Mac Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.

RMM wrote:

Well, if you want to be that way about it, the photo of MacArthur coming off the landing craft when he returned to the Philippines was also shot more than once until it was "right."

That is true.

sinatraman Loc: Vero Beach Florida, Earth,alpha quaudrant

it is easy to be objective while reporting. ! answer the 5w's and the h in your story. a concept every journalist is taught first thing. 2) avoid use of imflamatory words, details that don't add to the story (for example if the story is about a bank robbery, does the fact that one of the robbers is a polygamist relevent to the story, or would by mentioning it, inflame opinion against the suspect) Reporters need to only report the news and be consistent about it. you should cover the occupy movement the same way you cover the tea party(never gonna happen as surveys show 90% of all journalists are liberal democrats)

Mac Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.

sinatraman wrote:

it is easy to be objective while reporting. ! answ... (show quote)

Is there still a tea party?

Pepper Loc: Planet Earth Country USA

Personally I think they should cut it back to the 4 W's Who, What, When and Where. It's always the Why that gives them trouble with their attempts to maintain their objectivity.

Roger Hicks Loc: Aquitaine

sinatraman wrote:

it is easy to be objective while reporting. . . . you should cover the occupy movement the same way you cover the tea party(never gonna happen as surveys show 90% of all journalists are liberal democrats)

A wonderful example of your own objectivity! If it's so easy, why don't you do it?

Cheers,

R.

Mac Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.

Roger Hicks wrote:

sinatraman wrote:

it is easy to be objective while reporting. . . . you should cover the occupy movement the same way you cover the tea party(never gonna happen as surveys show 90% of all journalists are liberal democrats)

A wonderful example of your own objectivity! If it's so easy, why don't you do it?

Cheers,

R.

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Roger Hicks Loc: Aquitaine

Pepper wrote:

Personally I think they should cut it back to the 4 W's Who, What, When and Where. It's always the Why that gives them trouble with their attempts to maintain their objectivity.

Because there's never a single 'why'. There are always competing versions.

But who's going to read, "Two men, Fred Smith and John Bloggs, were shot by an unknown assailant in Tucson this afternoon"?

That answers all your questions. But apart from the dead men, their assailant, and possibly the police, WHO CARES?

Cheers,

R.

screen48 Loc: Northwest IL

Mac - by your own words it was staged and in the second raising two of the original soldiers were not there.

Mac Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.

screen48 wrote:

Mac - by your own words it was staged and in the second raising two of the original soldiers were not there.

I don't know how you can say, "By your own words it was staged." I didn't say that at all, unless you want to call everything that ever happens "staged." The second flag raising was to replace the smaller flag with a larger flag, that's all, not for a photo op. There was no flag pole to run the flag up on, the flag was attached to a piece of scrap metal which was then lifted to an upright position.