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Oct 24, 2013 06:36:28   #
jimmix7 Loc: England
 
I bought the Nikon 50mm 1.4 and never use it, At 1.4 it is totally crap with lots of 'green fringing' ( and yes I have tried it on a tripod)I find my Sigma 70mm 2.8 much better on my D7100 and my D90.. The 50mm is another purchase I wish I had not made.
Jimmy

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Oct 24, 2013 06:43:34   #
GPS Phil Loc: Dayton Ohio
 
MaisyMae wrote:
I have a Nikon D5100 with an 18-105mm zoom. I'm looking for a prime lens, maybe one with a 18-55mm zoom on it, with a low f/stop, but all Im finding is 3.5-5.6. Do I really need an f/stop of 1.4? Should I stick with the 50mm? I'm really confused about all the DSLR's and lenses out there. I was also considering saving my pennies for an 18-300mm f/3.5-5.6. Any suggestions? :?


The Nikon 35mm 1.8 @ about 200.00 is about the best bargain out there. Very, very sharp, and very good low light lens! Small enough to fit in about any pocket, you can always have it with you. The 35mm works out to about 50mm on your camera, and is about equivalent to what your eye see's.

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Oct 24, 2013 07:22:49   #
joer Loc: Colorado/Illinois
 
jimmix7 wrote:
I bought the Nikon 50mm 1.4 and never use it, At 1.4 it is totally crap with lots of 'green fringing' ( and yes I have tried it on a tripod)I find my Sigma 70mm 2.8 much better on my D7100 and my D90.. The 50mm is another purchase I wish I had not made.
Jimmy


The Sigma 70 f2.8 is one of their best.

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Oct 24, 2013 07:25:13   #
GeorgeVee Loc: Staten Island NY
 
GPS Phil wrote:
The Nikon 35mm 1.8 @ about 200.00 is about the best bargain out there. Very, very sharp, and very good low light lens! Small enough to fit in about any pocket, you can always have it with you. The 35mm works out to about 50mm on your camera, and is about equivalent to what your eye see's.



:thumbup: I agree

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Oct 24, 2013 09:01:18   #
cthahn
 
MaisyMae wrote:
I have a Nikon D5100 with an 18-105mm zoom. I'm looking for a prime lens, maybe one with a 18-55mm zoom on it, with a low f/stop, but all Im finding is 3.5-5.6. Do I really need an f/stop of 1.4? Should I stick with the 50mm? I'm really confused about all the DSLR's and lenses out there. I was also considering saving my pennies for an 18-300mm f/3.5-5.6. Any suggestions? :?


Do you know what a prime lens is? A prime lens is a fast, fixed focal length lens. If you are old enough to have purchased a new film camera, the chances are it would have come with a 50mm f1.8 prime lens. It is the best all around lens that you should have. The lens is small, fast, better quality than any zoom lens, For Nikon, a DX 35mm, f 1.8, under $200. Do not let anyone talk you out of a prime lens, as if they do, they are not a very good photographer.

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Oct 24, 2013 09:08:10   #
Edmund Dworakowski
 
If you need to ask if you need a f1.4 lens, you probably donn't !
I'd take a look at the most excellent Nikon 50 D or G f1.8 and 35 G 1.8 lenses. Both are sharp, fast and inexpensive... I particularly like my 35 f1.8 on my D300s...
MaisyMae wrote:
I have a Nikon D5100 with an 18-105mm zoom. I'm looking for a prime lens, maybe one with a 18-55mm zoom on it, with a low f/stop, but all Im finding is 3.5-5.6. Do I really need an f/stop of 1.4? Should I stick with the 50mm? I'm really confused about all the DSLR's and lenses out there. I was also considering saving my pennies for an 18-300mm f/3.5-5.6. Any suggestions? :?

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Oct 24, 2013 09:17:22   #
peterg Loc: Santa Rosa, CA
 
I love my Nikkor 50mm f/1.4G lens. Has great reviews. The Nikkor 50mm f/1.8G lens is about half that of the f/1.4G and also has great reviews. Some prefer the f/1.8.
Zooms and primes each has their pros & cons.

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Oct 24, 2013 09:25:19   #
TJ28012 Loc: Belmont, NC
 
I have both the Nikkor 50/1.8 and the 35/1.8 and prefer the 35 in most cases. Be sure that whatever you purchase has a motor in the lens as your D3100 body does not.

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Oct 24, 2013 09:27:15   #
TJ28012 Loc: Belmont, NC
 
Sorry... D5100. Same issue.

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Oct 24, 2013 10:01:43   #
Musket Loc: ArtBallin'
 
jimmix7 wrote:
I bought the Nikon 50mm 1.4 and never use it, At 1.4 it is totally crap with lots of 'green fringing' ( and yes I have tried it on a tripod)I find my Sigma 70mm 2.8 much better on my D7100 and my D90.. The 50mm is another purchase I wish I had not made.
Jimmy


The 50mm AF-D 1.4 is known for having bad CA which can be corrected in Lightroom with 1 button push. A tripod wont fix CA but can be taken out with some editing. At F2 it loses almost all of that issue. If its the 50mm AF-G newer lens, then that sounds like a bad copy (and that does happen) and should be sent to Nikon. My 50mm G does not CA at all wide open.

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Oct 24, 2013 10:13:08   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
Sounds like you really want a zoom to cover the lower ranges. Your camera is an APS-C. Sigma has some new or lenses that look good. I am waiting delivery (later today according to UPS) of the 18-35 1.8 art series lens. A little bit pricey for me (but nothing compared to some of the Nikon glass.) The 1.8 is constant across the whole range so it is touted to replace several primes. They also have a 17-70 2.8-4 that is much improved over the older version I have used for a couple years and been relatively happy with. The 18-35 runs around $800.00 and the 17-70 around $500. Dpreview gives the 18-35 a gold award. And it is backordered nearly everywhere.
Here is the dpreview of the 18-35
http://www.dpreview.com/lensreviews/sigma-18-35-1-8
and the 17-70
http://www.dpreview.com/lensreviews/sigma-17-70mm-f2-8-4-os-hsm
Gotta love dpreview

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Oct 24, 2013 10:32:43   #
Arca
 
Dear Maisy Mae,

As has already been said, a prime lens is not a zoom lens. It is a lens with a fixed focal length, e.g. 35 mm or 50 mm or 85 mm etc. These are always sharper than a zoom lens for reasons of optics and physics, which I won't get into now. Thus, if you want to take a really good photograph of something, anything, you would prefer to have a prime lens.

Having said that, if you have your heart set on a zoom lens, try to afford the more expensive ones with a fixed aperture throughout the length of the zoom. The lower the number, the faster the lens because of the larger the size of the glass allowing more light to enter and thus with larger glass comes a larger housing and with both larger glass and housing comes larger price and larger weight. If you can afford an XX mm to XXX mm at 2.8, it is a much better lens than the same xx mm to XXX mm at 3.5 to 5.6 even if made by the same manufacturer.

Some of the highest quality fixed/prime lenses are made by Zeiss for your Nikon. There is certainly sticker shock here, where you could easily spend $2,000 on a prime lens. And let's be real: wouldn't you expect or demand better clarity, higher contrast, better coatings, in short, closer to perfection with that lens than you would for a lens that cost only $600.00?

If photography is only a hobby, have fun and save the money. But if you are thinking about this becoming a profession, get the better glass, your reputation will ride on it.

Arca

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Oct 24, 2013 10:57:52   #
WayneL Loc: Baltimore Md
 
Prime lens = Nikon 35mm G DX

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Oct 24, 2013 13:24:23   #
Wall-E Loc: Phoenix, AZ
 
Musket wrote:
The 50mm AF-D 1.4 is known for having bad CA which can be corrected in Lightroom with 1 button push. A tripod wont fix CA but can be taken out with some editing. At F2 it loses almost all of that issue. If its the 50mm AF-G newer lens, then that sounds like a bad copy (and that does happen) and should be sent to Nikon. My 50mm G does not CA at all wide open.


CA????

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Oct 24, 2013 13:53:41   #
Musket Loc: ArtBallin'
 
Wall-E wrote:
CA????


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chromatic_aberration


Nikons 50mm AF-d 1.4 suffers from this phenomenon in a lot of hard light/backlight situations when used at f1.4 a lot. Lightroom corrects it pretty good. It can really stand out in trees.

There are some cameras that apply an in-camera process that tries very hard to remove this, and it does a good job. It however cannot compensate for lenses that suffer from it in a hard way, the 50mm AF-D happens to suffer rather harshly from CA until about f2 when not only does that lens get sharp as a tack edge to edge, but loses almost all of the CA effect as well.

Its normal to have to deal with CA on older lenses. Todays current Nikon line up of AF-S/G glass doesnt suffer nearly as bad from CA thanks to new coatings/LD/ED elements.

My Nikkor 50mm f2 AI doesnt CA much, the 50mm 1.4 AIS does, the 50mm 1.2 AIS does a lot more, the 50mm 1.4 AF-D does a ton, the 50mm 1.8 AF-D does a bit until f2, and the 50mm 1.4 G doesnt CA much at 1.4 what little CA is seen is gone by f2 as well.

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