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Oct 22, 2013 15:33:46   #
77firebird Loc: Van Buren Ar.
 
Hi all I am having a little problem with my Canon 580exii flash staying in master mode when I have a trigger attached to it.

My setup is a Canon 5Dmkiii a 430exii flash and a 580exii flash and 2 Yongnuo 622-c triggers. I can put the 580 on camera and it will stay in master mode and will fire the 430 with no problems. I place my triggers on and make sure the 580 is in master mode but when I half push the camera shutter button the master mode goes away and will not fire the 430 which is in slave mode.

I have cleared all flash custom settings but still the same way. Is it my triggers that want do this or does the 580 have to be on the camera.

Thanks in advance

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Oct 22, 2013 16:09:25   #
Wall-E Loc: Phoenix, AZ
 
77firebird wrote:
Hi all I am having a little problem with my Canon 580exii flash staying in master mode when I have a trigger attached to it.

My setup is a Canon 5Dmkiii a 430exii flash and a 580exii flash and 2 Yongnuo 622-c triggers. I can put the 580 on camera and it will stay in master mode and will fire the 430 with no problems. I place my triggers on and make sure the 580 is in master mode but when I half push the camera shutter button the master mode goes away and will not fire the 430 which is in slave mode.

I have cleared all flash custom settings but still the same way. Is it my triggers that want do this or does the 580 have to be on the camera.

Thanks in advance
Hi all I am having a little problem with my Canon ... (show quote)


Looking in the manual, it never shows a 'master' flash off-camera.

First thing is, make sure the 622's work. A number of other hoggers have had problems with those.
When you fire the shutter, does the slave indicate that it's trying to fire the flash?
Does it fire the 430?

If it fires the 430, then set the 580 like it was on-camera.

If at this point it fires the 580, then you're going to need another 622 to be the trigger for the 430.

I think you're asking the 622's to pass 'master' information that they weren't designed to pass. They are intended to extend the normal TTL information between the camera and the flash.

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Oct 22, 2013 16:28:30   #
77firebird Loc: Van Buren Ar.
 
Wall-E wrote:
Looking in the manual, it never shows a 'master' flash off-camera.

First thing is, make sure the 622's work. A number of other hoggers have had problems with those.
When you fire the shutter, does the slave indicate that it's trying to fire the flash?
Does it fire the 430?

If it fires the 430, then set the 580 like it was on-camera.

If at this point it fires the 580, then you're going to need another 622 to be the trigger for the 430.

I think you're asking the 622's to pass 'master' information that they weren't designed to pass. They are intended to extend the normal TTL information between the camera and the flash.
Looking in the manual, it never shows a 'master' f... (show quote)


I do know that my 622 does work and I have not had any problems with them. I just thought I could use the 580 in master mode and use it as a flash and also let the 430 fire with both flash's in E-TTL mode. So I guess I will have to get another trigger or another flash and keep the 580 on camera.

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Oct 23, 2013 07:42:52   #
cthahn
 
77firebird wrote:
Hi all I am having a little problem with my Canon 580exii flash staying in master mode when I have a trigger attached to it.

My setup is a Canon 5Dmkiii a 430exii flash and a 580exii flash and 2 Yongnuo 622-c triggers. I can put the 580 on camera and it will stay in master mode and will fire the 430 with no problems. I place my triggers on and make sure the 580 is in master mode but when I half push the camera shutter button the master mode goes away and will not fire the 430 which is in slave mode.

You have a problem. When you mix and match camera equipment and have problems, who do you go to for help? The camera manufacturer or the flash manufacturer. If you find someone on this web site that can help you, feel very lucky. Read and understand you manuals again.

I have cleared all flash custom settings but still the same way. Is it my triggers that want do this or does the 580 have to be on the camera.

Thanks in advance
Hi all I am having a little problem with my Canon ... (show quote)

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Oct 23, 2013 09:33:14   #
KenL Loc: West OZ
 
If you decide to get another flash go for the 600ex. It is radio wireless with the Mk 111. Great for off camera flash

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Oct 23, 2013 12:34:18   #
jim quist Loc: Missouri
 
I use the old Vivitar 283's with pocket wizards for remote flash units, works great. Pick them up at BnH or Ebay.

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Oct 23, 2013 13:52:16   #
jeep_daddy Loc: Prescott AZ
 
77firebird wrote:
Hi all I am having a little problem with my Canon 580exii flash staying in master mode when I have a trigger attached to it.

My setup is a Canon 5Dmkiii a 430exii flash and a 580exii flash and 2 Yongnuo 622-c triggers. I can put the 580 on camera and it will stay in master mode and will fire the 430 with no problems. I place my triggers on and make sure the 580 is in master mode but when I half push the camera shutter button the master mode goes away and will not fire the 430 which is in slave mode.

I have cleared all flash custom settings but still the same way. Is it my triggers that want do this or does the 580 have to be on the camera.

Thanks in advance
Hi all I am having a little problem with my Canon ... (show quote)


The short answer is yes, the 580 has to be on the hot shoe or think it's on the hot shoe to work like a master. You can buy an off camera cable to put the 580 off the camera but since it's hard wired to the shoe, the camera still thinks it's on the hot shoe and it will work as a master. Any time you use a trigger, all bets are off. Some triggers DO have E-TTL capability, but non will work exactly like the 580 is on the hot shoe - even a Pocket Wizard.

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Oct 23, 2013 22:14:04   #
Aaron Braganza Loc: Sydney, Australia
 
Wall-E wrote:
Looking in the manual, it never shows a 'master' flash off-camera.

First thing is, make sure the 622's work. A number of other hoggers have had problems with those.
When you fire the shutter, does the slave indicate that it's trying to fire the flash?
Does it fire the 430?

If it fires the 430, then set the 580 like it was on-camera.

If at this point it fires the 580, then you're going to need another 622 to be the trigger for the 430.

I think you're asking the 622's to pass 'master' information that they weren't designed to pass. They are intended to extend the normal TTL information between the camera and the flash.
Looking in the manual, it never shows a 'master' f... (show quote)




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