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Oct 22, 2013 14:55:22   #
D-Train Loc: Bend, Oregon
 
Hey guys,
I was searching around on the DxOMark website that another member pointed out to me, and checking out which cameras are getting the highest ratings and came across this product that, even after visiting their website, is confusing. It is a Phase One IQ180 Digital Back. I went to the Phase One website and there are some impressive specs listed (80 MP!) but it says it is a camera back! A back that fits what? There is nothing saying what kind of camera these backs fit. So is their system a complete camera? If so why do they call it a camera back and not a camera? I'm just baffled about what exactly this is. Anyone care to elucidate, elaborate and educate?
Thanks!
Dennis

cthahn need not respond. :roll:
craggycrossers, I look forward to your answer. :wink:

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Oct 22, 2013 15:03:19   #
tusketwedge Loc: Nova Scotia Canada
 
I do believe it would be for a medium or large format camera that you would see in the studios,Like the film cameras of old except digital.Don't quote me as I could be way off base.

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Oct 22, 2013 15:05:06   #
D-Train Loc: Bend, Oregon
 
tusketwedge wrote:
I do believe it would be for a medium or large format camera that you would see in the studios,Like the film cameras of old except digital.Don't quote me as I could be way off base.


Thanks Tusket, it does say that it is for commercial level equipment but they don't really explain it. I guess they figure anyone visiting their website will already now what the product is for.

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Oct 22, 2013 15:13:13   #
MT Shooter Loc: Montana
 
The Phase One website will have a listing of exactly what bodies that back is available for. Suffice it to say that if you can afford the back, you can afford the camera. Those setups are definitely a rich mans game!

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Oct 22, 2013 15:14:19   #
77firebird Loc: Van Buren Ar.
 
D-Train wrote:
Hey guys,
I was searching around on the DxOMark website that another member pointed out to me, and checking out which cameras are getting the highest ratings and came across this product that, even after visiting their website, is confusing. It is a Phase One IQ180 Digital Back. I went to the Phase One website and there are some impressive specs listed (80 MP!) but it says it is a camera back! A back that fits what? There is nothing saying what kind of camera these backs fit. So is their system a complete camera? If so why do they call it a camera back and not a camera? I'm just baffled about what exactly this is. Anyone care to elucidate, elaborate and educate?
Thanks!
Dennis

cthahn need not respond. :roll:
craggycrossers, I look forward to your answer. :wink:
Hey guys, br I was searching around on the DxOMark... (show quote)


If you google PhaseOne camera's you will see what they call a camera back. Just a word of warning don't look at the sticker price you will go into shock---LOL

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Oct 22, 2013 15:15:49   #
77firebird Loc: Van Buren Ar.
 
MT Shooter wrote:
The Phase One website will have a listing of exactly what bodies that back is available for. Suffice it to say that if you can afford the back, you can afford the camera. Those setups are definitely a rich mans game!


Dang MT you beat me to the punch.

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Oct 22, 2013 15:22:51   #
Pentony Loc: Earth Traveller
 
$20,000.00 for a digital back for a Mamiya RB67. WOW

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Oct 22, 2013 15:34:56   #
77firebird Loc: Van Buren Ar.
 
Pentony wrote:
$20,000.00 for a digital back for a Mamiya RB67. WOW


I said don't look at sticker price---LOL

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Oct 22, 2013 15:41:16   #
CaptainC Loc: Colorado, south of Denver
 
MT Shooter wrote:
The Phase One website will have a listing of exactly what bodies that back is available for. Suffice it to say that if you can afford the back, you can afford the camera. Those setups are definitely a rich mans game!


That is for sure!
This is a case of, "If you have to ask, you can't afford it."

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Oct 22, 2013 15:48:50   #
D-Train Loc: Bend, Oregon
 
Interesting article here:
http://news.cnet.com/8301-30685_3-20007578-264.html
I guess I'll do more Googling in the future.

I was once having a website developed and the developer asked me "Have you ever Googled yourself?" and I said "well, yes, but I usually do that in the privacy of my own home!" ROFL!

Yeah, I crack myself up sometimes! :lol:

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Oct 22, 2013 16:01:15   #
SharpShooter Loc: NorCal
 
D-Train wrote:
Hey guys,
I was searching around on the DxOMark website that another member pointed out to me, and checking out which cameras are getting the highest ratings and came across this product that, even after visiting their website, is confusing. It is a Phase One IQ180 Digital Back. I went to the Phase One website and there are some impressive specs listed (80 MP!) but it says it is a camera back! A back that fits what? There is nothing saying what kind of camera these backs fit. So is their system a complete camera? If so why do they call it a camera back and not a camera? I'm just baffled about what exactly this is. Anyone care to elucidate, elaborate and educate?
Thanks!
Dennis

cthahn need not respond. :roll:
craggycrossers, I look forward to your answer. :wink:
Hey guys, br I was searching around on the DxOMark... (show quote)


D-Train, to bad you got such an elitist answer from those that are supposed to know.
Those cameras are NOT for the rich and famous, they are for discerning professionals that demand very high end quality in their photography. Photographers like Annie Liebovitz, Steve McCurry and young guys like Joey L use that type of equipment.
Some of the old MF Bronicas and Mamiyas can take a removable back. PhaseOne also makes complete MF systems, along with Hasselblad and Leica.
So D-train, yes that equipment IS expensive, but it's all relative. Many think a Nikon d800 is for the rich. But how many of those same people drive a $50k+ car?
That equipment is there for those that use it and need it as a tool of choice.
Don't ever let anybody tell you that it has nothing to do with the camera and that it's only about the guy behind the camera.
D-train, all of us should aspire to use the best that we can justify. Sometime it's a necessity, not a justification.
Happy shooting. SS

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Oct 22, 2013 16:06:01   #
PhotoArtsLA Loc: Boynton Beach
 
80 megapixels is a very, very low resolution back next to that which the government is using to shoot crowds.

Here is the post I received about this monster of spydom:

This picture was taken with a 70,000 x 30,000 pixel camera (2,100 Mega Pixels.) These cameras are not sold to the public but are being installed in strategic locations. The camera can identify a face among a multitude of people. Place your computer's cursor in the mass of people and double-click a couple times (or 'finger-spread' on a device.) Keep double clicking until in won't enlarge any more...

George Orwell must be smiling somewhere out there.

http://www.gigapixel.com/mobile/?id=79995

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Oct 22, 2013 17:31:21   #
FredB Loc: A little below the Mason-Dixon line.
 
PhotoArtsLA wrote:

This picture was taken with a 70,000 x 30,000 pixel camera (2,100 Mega Pixels.) These cameras are not sold to the public but are being installed in strategic locations. The camera can identify a face among a multitude of people. Place your computer's cursor in the mass of people and double-click a couple times (or 'finger-spread' on a device.) Keep double clicking until in won't enlarge any more...

George Orwell must be smiling somewhere out there.

http://www.gigapixel.com/mobile/?id=79995
br This picture was taken with a 70,000 x 30,000 ... (show quote)
I checked out this pic - I noticed the bus in the background left has a burnt out tail light... :)

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Oct 22, 2013 17:35:06   #
FredB Loc: A little below the Mason-Dixon line.
 
PhotoArtsLA wrote:
George Orwell must be smiling somewhere out there.
And if he is, we can pick him out of a crowd... :)

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Oct 22, 2013 17:40:19   #
jdubu Loc: San Jose, CA
 
There was a professional photographer we met many years ago, through mutual friends, that we ran into at a professional meeting this last year.

For the life of us, we couldn't remember what it was about him that gave us the impression that we never liked him all those years ago... until he opened his mouth.

He basically sneered at my camera equipment and said you can't be a professional unless you have a Phase One backed camera.

He insisted that he be known as the wedding photographer that "captures the emotion". And actually corrected someone who introduced him as simply a wedding photographer.

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