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Sunny 16 rule...just so you know
Oct 15, 2013 08:33:36 #
jerryc41 wrote:
I've never bothered with the Sunny 16 Rule. It just seemed like one more thing to remember. Either the exposure is right, or it isn't. Manipulating the three variables will get the correct exposure. If I had to start with f/16, 100, and 100, and figure from there, it would just slow me down. If it helps some people, great!
Lol...that was also the point...that you don't have to start with f/16 :)
It's ONLY the name of the rule!
You could call it the "sunny f/8 rule" if you wanted to and remember that the shutter speed is two stops faster than the ISO.
I think it's ONLY on f/16 so that the ISO and ss are the same...making it easier to remember..not that you have to start there.
You have to start SOMEWHERE...so why start with settings that are so far out of the park that you twist dials for 3 minutes?
Why not set the camera right on f/8 ISO 100, and SS 1/400 and call it a day? :)
You old men....so set in your ways... :)
Oct 15, 2013 09:10:09 #
All those rules go back to film days and totally manual cameras with no on board light meters. They appeared on the instruction that came with the film. They were included with the film as a guide for those who knew very little about exposure and so that people were not disapointed about the films results. That way they would not blame the film for the reason that their pics were no good and they would continue buying that brand. In other words in many ways it was clever marketing
Oct 15, 2013 10:03:15 #
rpavich, thanks for clarifying the sunny 16 rule. I sometimes feel I can't think fast enough on a shot to get it figured out before things change, so that will at least give me a starting point and hopefully, over time, it will all become 2nd nature, like it is for a lot of you.
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Oct 15, 2013 10:26:38 #
marxgo wrote:
rpavich, thanks for clarifying the sunny 16 rule. I sometimes feel I can't think fast enough on a shot to get it figured out before things change, so that will at least give me a starting point and hopefully, over time, it will all become 2nd nature, like it is for a lot of you.
I know it seems complicated but biting off just a slight bit at a time helps.
What makes things complicated are options but try this for the next day...do this several times a day and by the weekend...it will be second nature.
Put your camera on manual, and walk outside.
Now set it on f/8, ISO 100, and SS of 1/400.
Say OUT LOUD what you are doing when you do it....trust me...that helps cement things in our mind....say this:
"It's sunny, so I'm setting an aperture of f/8, the ISO at 100 and a shutter speed of 1/400."
Now take ONE picture.
Walk back inside and do it again.
Take your camera dials and twiddle them around until they are wrong.
And start the process over again...walk outside and set the camera again...f/8 ISO 100 SS 1/400...and say it out loud.
If you do that several times today and tomorrow...you will have it in your mind by saturday, and by next saturday it will be second nature and you will NEVER forget it.
just a thought.
Oct 15, 2013 10:35:07 #
rpavich wrote:
I know it seems complicated but biting off just a ... (show quote)
Thanks for the lesson. Sounds like a good idea. I will try it for sure!
Oct 15, 2013 10:44:40 #
[quote=rpavich]Once in a while here on the 'hog, someone mentions the "sunny 16 rule" and it appears that some, but not all (I used to) think that this rule means that you must shoot at f/16 on a sunny day when you set the camera to f/16, ISO 100, ss-1/100.
Are you one who thought this?
I know at first I did. I kept asking myself...what if I want to shoot at f/4????
But what it means is that this is the RELATIONSHIP of the exposure variables on a sunny day.
Example:
rpavich, you forgot your handy little chart:
http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-136679-1.html
EstherP
Are you one who thought this?
I know at first I did. I kept asking myself...what if I want to shoot at f/4????
But what it means is that this is the RELATIONSHIP of the exposure variables on a sunny day.
Example:
rpavich, you forgot your handy little chart:
http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-136679-1.html
EstherP
Oct 15, 2013 10:53:00 #
[quote=EstherP]
Looks like I'm a forgetful old fart also....:)
rpavich wrote:
Once in a while here on the 'hog, someone mentions... (show quote)
Looks like I'm a forgetful old fart also....:)
Oct 15, 2013 10:53:42 #
In the old days of coated glass plates. I learned it was a,"rule," not, "law." I would shoot at different, "triangles," go to the darkroom and see what I had. It's still a great exercise. When I teach a new person, I do what I call, "whats your triangle look like."
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Oct 15, 2013 11:59:14 #
rpavich wrote:
Once in a while here on the 'hog, someone mentions... (show quote)
Oh for days of lenses with EV values such as the old Hasselblad lenses! Made Sunny 16 shooting a piece of cake.
Oct 15, 2013 12:28:49 #
rpavich wrote:
This was the point of my post: that just because it's called the "sunny 16 rule" doesn't mean that you are bound to f/16...
I was just trying to explain it in case anyone was confused...that's all.
I was just trying to explain it in case anyone was confused...that's all.
Thank you. You did a great job with the explanation. Much appreciated.
Oct 15, 2013 14:44:30 #
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Oct 15, 2013 14:51:23 #
Good explanation - but it is worth to note the 16 rule applies only when the sun is above 30 degrees from the horizon - and with no clouds, fog, smoke or other obstructions between subject and sun.
Oct 15, 2013 15:23:29 #
B-n-L
Loc: Nevada
Would you please explain the equationfor figuring out the "rule". Just want to understand the basis for it.
Thank You
Thank You
Oct 15, 2013 15:26:33 #
See the Wiki...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunny_16_rule
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunny_16_rule
B-n-L wrote:
Would you please explain the equationfor figuring out the "rule". Just want to understand the basis for it.
Thank You
Thank You
Oct 15, 2013 15:44:08 #
rpavich wrote:
Once in a while here on the 'hog, someone mentions... (show quote)
Personally, I rather like the mantra uttered by newsroom photo editors for the benefit of his rookie photojournalists;
"f8...and don't be late!"
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