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Oct 14, 2013 21:51:03   #
wilsondl2 Loc: Lincoln, Nebraska
 
mdorn wrote:
Really? Wow... the first question I ALWAYS ask myself is whether the photographer used raw or not... Thank goodness the EXIF data will show me what mode it was taken in. Otherwise, I would have no fricken way to distinguish a pro from a snap shooter. :-)


Wow! Thanks for the tip I have been having trouble telling which were which. Dave

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Oct 14, 2013 21:52:52   #
nekon Loc: Carterton, New Zealand
 
architect wrote:
That may make sense for photographers who shoot hundreds of shots, at a wedding for example, and have a short deadline to produce results. But for those of us who want the most out of our images, RAW delivers the goods. Even with wedding pics, where brides are wearing white, a notoriously difficult color to get just right, RAW is the superior file choice to get the details in the highlights.


Never a problem is you get incident readings

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Oct 14, 2013 21:55:35   #
Bram boy Loc: Vancouver Island B.C. Canada
 
nekon wrote:
But yours is the American spelling

right , when i cross the boarder i cant even read the road signs.
in the us. were so close you would think they would put up a set we can read

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Oct 14, 2013 22:04:45   #
Nightski
 
Bram boy wrote:
right , when i cross the boarder i cant even read the road signs.
in the us. were so close you would think they would put up a set we can read


I was just having a little fun, guys. Lighten up. Let's have a laugh. Nekon, I know you're a really smart guy that knows how to spell, and Bram Boy, you've got to be smart to have gotten through life with the way you spell. Okay...so chill.

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Oct 14, 2013 22:08:35   #
Bram boy Loc: Vancouver Island B.C. Canada
 
lighthouse wrote:
Was that really necessary Bram?
If you like I can try to walk you through how to post images in the gallery section so that others beside Allen can see what a master you are.

where you getting all this master crap, there pictures for god sake same as any one else. i dont know what a master is never seen one. pollack the not to artistic artest. i dont get it , andie whorhall
i guess you had to be there, but not my bag. they are art snobs
just like wine snobs, they dont have a clue whates good or bad. they just follow the crowd.

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Oct 14, 2013 22:15:57   #
Bram boy Loc: Vancouver Island B.C. Canada
 
Nightski wrote:
I was just having a little fun, guys. Lighten up. Let's have a laugh. Nekon, I know you're a really smart guy that knows how to spell, and Bram Boy, you've got to be smart to have gotten through life with the way you spell. Okay...so chill.

hay im always chilled i just like to stir it up a little..to see the reaction i get ,

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Oct 14, 2013 22:17:33   #
Nightski
 
Bram boy wrote:
hay im always chilled i just like to stir it up a little..to see the reaction i get ,


:thumbup: It's scary, but I'm starting to understand you, Bram Boy...LOL

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Oct 14, 2013 22:22:10   #
lighthouse Loc: No Fixed Abode
 
Bram boy wrote:
where you getting all this master crap, ..........


How about from your opinion here?


Bram boy wrote:

I don't see the point there all good , ........ I know about all there's is to taking a good one . ........... it's easy for me to take good pictures .


Does that sound like a self proclaimed master?

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Oct 14, 2013 22:38:29   #
architect Loc: Chattanooga
 
nekon wrote:
Never a problem if you get incident readings

If you can do that in the chaos of a wedding, just as one example, then you are a better man than I am. I will continue to shoot in
RAW and optimize my images, rather than accept what the camera dictates in Jpeg.

Just curious. Have you ever shot using RAW files? Have you ever compared the refined RAW files to your Jpeg files? No question using Jpeg files are quicker to use. My experience is that RAW files gives me much more artistic control over my images, including shots that are near perfect in exposure etc. Marginal shots can be much improved if shot in RAW.

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Oct 14, 2013 22:42:35   #
Bram boy Loc: Vancouver Island B.C. Canada
 
lighthouse wrote:
Does that sound like a self proclaimed master?

not really its what every one who takes picture should be saying because there is no trick to it , aim the camera and take the picture . what could be simpler, every one is not going to be a show stopper.there is thousands of good pictures, the problem is the majority are just plane boring . may be millions that are plane boring, and mine are there in that bunch also, the only trick to it if you call it that is trying to get one that isent quite as booring as all the others, there is lots of good pic around but very few on the hog site that are not ho humm booring boaring, how ever its spelled. spilled??

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Oct 14, 2013 22:49:04   #
lighthouse Loc: No Fixed Abode
 
Ok then Bram (not a master), what if you show us some of your "they're all good" photos?
Like I said, I can walk you through uploading them to the gallery if you like.

Bram boy wrote:
not really its what every one who takes picture should be saying because there is no trick to it , aim the camera and take the picture . what could be simpler, every one is not going to be a show stopper.there is thousands of good pictures, the problem is the majority are just plane boring . may be millions that are plane boring, and mine are there in that bunch also, the only trick to it if you call it that is trying to get one that isent quite as booring as all the others, there is lots of good pic around but very few on the hog site that are not ho humm booring boaring, how ever its spelled. spilled??
not really its what every one who takes picture sh... (show quote)

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Oct 14, 2013 22:59:55   #
NoSocks Loc: quonochontaug, rhode island
 
Nightski wrote:
:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:


brava miss nightski! misused AND misspelled. well done.

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Oct 14, 2013 23:00:45   #
BHC Loc: Strawberry Valley, JF, USA
 
lighthouse wrote:
Ok then Bram (not a master), what if you show us some of your "they're all good" photos?
Like I said, I can walk you through uploading them to the gallery if you like.


Lighthouse, you certainly are smarter than I am; I could not understand his message.

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Oct 14, 2013 23:41:12   #
ziggykor Loc: East Texas
 
To reply to the op's original question: I shoot RAW because it allows me to work in the way that I want to work, it's that simple. Is it the best, for me it is, and that's all that matters. Each has its own advantages, so what others use matters not to me.

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Oct 14, 2013 23:51:30   #
nekon Loc: Carterton, New Zealand
 
architect wrote:
If you can do that in the chaos of a wedding, just as one example, then you are a better man than I am. I will continue to shoot in
RAW and optimize my images, rather than accept what the camera dictates in Jpeg.

Just curious. Have you ever shot using RAW files? Have you ever compared the refined RAW files to your Jpeg files? No question using Jpeg files are quicker to use. My experience is that RAW files gives me much more artistic control over my images, including shots that are near perfect in exposure etc. Marginal shots can be much improved if shot in RAW.
If you can do that in the chaos of a wedding, just... (show quote)


I have been a wedding photographer for over 50 years-yes I have used the raw process, but because I can nail exposure and white balance due to due diligence and experience, all I need to do in post process is adjust the gamma in levels, rendering the raw process time- consuming and unnecessary for me.

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