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Oct 11, 2013 17:29:40   #
DBPhotos Loc: Out There Somewhere
 
MT Shooter wrote:
I have never shot in "the raw", I doubt my neighbors would appreciate it too much. ;-)


Montana winters could be somewhat hazardous as well.

:lol: :lol: :thumbup:

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Oct 11, 2013 17:39:24   #
CocoaRoger Loc: Cocoa Florida
 
heheh

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Oct 11, 2013 18:39:29   #
smcaleer Loc: Dearborn Heights, Michigan
 
Glen H wrote:
I'm contemplating shooting pictures in raw, instead of JPG.
What are your thoughts on this? Does it produce a better picture? I guess if it is to be posted on line it needs to be converted to a different format anyways!?!?!?
I'm mostly shooting macro of insects and plants.

I have Photoshop CS6 Extended but don't have Light Room


Glen


I can only echo what everyone else is saying. Once you go RAW, you'll never look back. You just have so much more control.

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Oct 11, 2013 18:44:51   #
mickeys Loc: Fort Wayne, IN
 
yes some times. I would like to see women shoot in the raw

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Oct 11, 2013 18:53:19   #
CocoaRoger Loc: Cocoa Florida
 
Well hopefully the question has been answered by now. Everyone makes their own decision and that's cool. It comes down to what you like. Regardless of anyone else's opinion. RAW in my opinion gives you more tools to work with when and if needed. But that's my opinion. I like having the options RAW gives that jpeg doesn't. Think of it as developing film. If you take a jpeg it's like dropping your film off at Walmart and hoping for the best. If you use RAW your your own developer. It's a matter of how much time or effort one wants to put into processing the photo's if the need comes.

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Oct 11, 2013 19:10:41   #
dar_clicks Loc: Utah
 
Glen H wrote:
I'm contemplating shooting pictures in raw, instead of JPG.
What are your thoughts on this? Does it produce a better picture? I guess if it is to be posted on line it needs to be converted to a different format anyways!?!?!?
I'm mostly shooting macro of insects and plants.

I have Photoshop CS6 Extended but don't have Light Room

Glen

It is a matter of how and what kind of editing you wish to do in post processing rather than whether the picture is better or not. For really serious "computer darkroom" work, RAW gives you much more/better information to work with. Up to a certain amount of tweaking a JPEG will edit reasonably okay. I like to shoot RAW + JPEG, RAW's purpose as I described and JPEG for quick review.

Yes, for web display or e-Mail you should prepare and upload a JPEG file in sRGB color profile just to be more widely compatible with however someone might view it. For most venues it is probably better to reduce the pixel dimensions of the file to be smaller than the camera provided. Usually the size reduction needs to have a bit of sharpening otherwise the downsizing alone can often make it slightly less sharp.

Most of this stuff sounds worse than it is when reading an explanation like this. Using Photoshop that you already have, it is not difficult to get the file tweaked and saved into the proper format -- just takes some looking into and practice. If you try RAW, Adobe Camera RAW works pretty well to open and edit the RAW file, then output from that can be passed to Photoshop to finish up. It didn't make a lot of sense to me when I first started looking at RAW, but then it sort of clicked and in time became easy and extremely useful.

Sorry, I didn't mean to write this much. There has been more written about this on UHH and you can also find a lot more good instructional material on line as well. Good Luck!

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Oct 11, 2013 19:17:40   #
CocoaRoger Loc: Cocoa Florida
 
Yeah I agree, take some difficult exposure photos such as bright sun, or just after it has set, just play with the photos and RAW files and see how it works. That will show you what you can and cannot do. It doesn't cost anything except your time. Take time to learn the different settings and see if you like it or not.

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Oct 11, 2013 19:27:58   #
mdorn Loc: Portland, OR
 
dar_clicks wrote:
It is a matter of how and what kind of editing you wish to do in post processing rather than whether the picture is better or not. For really serious "computer darkroom" work, RAW gives you much more/better information to work with. Up to a certain amount of tweaking a JPEG will edit reasonably okay. I like to shoot RAW + JPEG, RAW's purpose as I described and JPEG for quick review.

Yes, for web display or e-Mail you should prepare and upload a JPEG file in sRGB color profile just to be more widely compatible with however someone might view it. For most venues it is probably better to reduce the pixel dimensions of the file to be smaller than the camera provided. Usually the size reduction needs to have a bit of sharpening otherwise the downsizing alone can often make it slightly less sharp.

Most of this stuff sounds worse than it is when reading an explanation like this. Using Photoshop that you already have, it is not difficult to get the file tweaked and saved into the proper format -- just takes some looking into and practice. If you try RAW, Adobe Camera RAW works pretty well to open and edit the RAW file, then output from that can be passed to Photoshop to finish up. It didn't make a lot of sense to me when I first started looking at RAW, but then it sort of clicked and in time became easy and extremely useful.

Sorry, I didn't mean to write this much. There has been more written about this on UHH and you can also find a lot more good instructional material on line as well. Good Luck!
It is a matter of how and what kind of editing you... (show quote)


ACR (Adobe Camera Raw) is a great tool. I use it on most of my JPG files as well.

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Oct 11, 2013 19:45:40   #
Uuglypher Loc: South Dakota (East River)
 
mdorn wrote:
ACR (Adobe Camera Raw) is a great tool. I use it on most of my JPG files as well.


Agree! Big Time saver for serious JPEG tweaking. You open a jpeg ( or a tiff) file in ACR and with the sliders in the main menu you can accomplish what you need a bunch of menus under "Adjustments" in Photoshop to do! ACR isn't just for RAW files any more! ( But what ACR can do with a RAW file...absolutely amazing!)

Dave in SD

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Oct 11, 2013 20:24:39   #
portcragin Loc: Kirkland, WA
 
I like many others shoot in RAW and JPEG. It gives me the max latitude when PP.

Good shooting

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Oct 11, 2013 20:50:33   #
Gramps Loc: Republic of Tejas--Tomball, TX
 
CocoaRoger wrote:
Well hopefully the question has been answered by now. Everyone makes their own decision and that's cool. It comes down to what you like. Regardless of anyone else's opinion. RAW in my opinion gives you more tools to work with when and if needed. But that's my opinion. I like having the options RAW gives that jpeg doesn't. Think of it as developing film. If you take a jpeg it's like dropping your film off at Walmart and hoping for the best. If you use RAW your your own developer. It's a matter of how much time or effort one wants to put into processing the photo's if the need comes.
Well hopefully the question has been answered by n... (show quote)


Then you never processed your own film? You never rolled cartridges from 100' bulk rolls? You never used trays, chemicals, an enlarger, tanks, safe light? You never worked past midnight to get a session completed and to your client? You never ordered supplies from Spiratone, Hollywood? You call a gimmick, RAW, the replacement for real photographic effort? When I put a roll of film in a developing tank, closed it up and set the timer I was never hoping for the best! I expected it!

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Oct 11, 2013 21:47:33   #
sontog Loc: S. California
 
Shoot RAW and become familiar with Adobe Bridge in Photoshop. Lightroom is not a necessity. You can make a JPG from a RAW file but you can't make a RAW file from a JPG. Get the most versatility from your photos. Shoot RAW

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Oct 11, 2013 23:08:32   #
James R. Kyle Loc: Saint Louis, Missouri (A Suburb of Ferguson)
 
Gramps wrote:
That's total B.S. The camera didn't tap me on the shoulder or ring a bell---I picked the subject---I framed it---I shot it---the finished product was my picture---I didn't need a contrivance gimmick to lick my egotistic face.


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Thank you, "Gramps" for your input on this....

You have your way, and opinion -- I have mine.

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Oct 11, 2013 23:54:00   #
bobwood Loc: Fort Dodge, Iowa
 
Alwats RAW +L (jpeg). One for editing if needed and one for the Internet if I want. The RAW image is used for editing. If I edit the RAW, I save it as a .tiff and .jpeg.

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Oct 12, 2013 00:25:53   #
morrisb Loc: adelaide south australia
 
Glen H wrote:
I'm contemplating shooting pictures in raw, instead of JPG.
What are your thoughts on this? Does it produce a better picture? I guess if it is to be posted on line it needs to be converted to a different format anyways!?!?!?
I'm mostly shooting macro of insects and plants.

I have Photoshop CS6 Extended but don't have Light Room


Glen

Never! i always wear some clothing.LOL

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