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Sep 23, 2011 18:30:37   #
angel99 Loc: NC
 
I love your new word "Photoshopgrapher" . I belong to a camera club and I know the members who constantly get top scores in competition are photoshopgraphers. Can't wait til I can master photoshop and I get a nine once in a while. (top score) Managed 8 last week. Get great subject matter but can't print great photo.

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Sep 23, 2011 18:44:50   #
sinatraman Loc: Vero Beach Florida, Earth,alpha quaudrant
 
congradulations everybody, I believe this now ranks as the longest thread in hedgehog history.

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Sep 23, 2011 19:27:06   #
jbert Loc: Texas
 
pbardes2,

Do you mean print you own images?

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Sep 23, 2011 19:30:16   #
LittleRedFish Loc: Naw'lens (New Orleans)
 
Thank you, Thank you everyone for your wonderful imput. I now know that I am not a professional,not that I ever thought I was. I maybe an artist, but I am a photoshopgraphy. I don't think they have that word in Websters yet, but after this thread I think it's coming.

Yours, Rachel

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Sep 23, 2011 19:44:46   #
powerman Loc: Spokane Valley WA
 
BigD wrote:
And the water has so much more detail, the picture looks better (and the hose won't mind one bit). Now if you added Mit Romney sneaking a yound lady into that canoe then were getting into another subject entirely :thumbup:


Hahaha!!! Besides learning a whole bunch about photoshoptography ( I really had to slow down my typing for that one), I'm learning there are a lot of people that are quite humorous also. I gotta keep going back and forth to see what you all are saying about the P/P, but when I do it's quite obvious. Thanks

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Sep 23, 2011 19:47:56   #
Pics-Tale
 
New thread title:
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"Chicken or the Egg" which came first? anyone? :thumbup:

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Sep 23, 2011 19:50:08   #
freeman37188 Loc: Tennessee
 
I think as long as image manipulation is used to enhance and not deceive it's perfectly alright. When I was using Kodachrome if the photo was too warm or cool I did a little color correcting. After all film "sees" differently than the human eye and the image you are looking at may not be an accurate representation of what you really saw. Therefore a color correction may be considered to give a more accurate picture of how the image actually appeared to the photographer.

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Sep 23, 2011 20:08:28   #
Dennis
 
That's why you hire an account, which also is deductable

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Sep 23, 2011 20:25:45   #
daspeed07 Loc: Bronx,NY
 
In music you try to stay away from "we can fix it in the mix". In photography "I" think trying to capture that light or the moment is part of the art. But, putting hair on a bald guy or taking a photo of someone in a basement and putting them on a beach is a bit much. Post has become an art in itself and I think it all can go well with a little imagination. Just please don't put the hair on the bald guy.

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Sep 23, 2011 20:39:31   #
dongrant Loc: Earth, I think!
 
Pics-Tale wrote:
New thread title:
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"Chicken or the Egg" which came first? anyone? :thumbup:


The egg came first. The thing that laid the egg that grew into a chicken was not quite a chicken. ;-)

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Sep 23, 2011 21:26:21   #
Perry Loc: Washington Michigan
 
JimH wrote:
Ansel Adams was famous for some of his darkroom techniques.

People who say "real photographers don't use post processing" are elitist snobs who just want to have someone to look down their noses at.

EVERY professional photographer uses some sort of P/P, whether it's darkroom technique or digital post processing.

I get a chuckle out of these 'film only' snobs who talk about digital photography as if it were one step from pedophilia, but have no problem discussing which film is best for vivid colors at which darkroom settings and which lighting setup. They're simply doing PRE-processing, instead of post-processing.

When every 'film only' doofus uses a K-mart 120-Instamatic and Walgreen's developing for ALL of his/her work, then maybe I'll attach some import to their bleating. Not until.

I do very little P/P, but only because I'm lazy and usually screw it up anyway.
Ansel Adams was famous for some of his darkroom te... (show quote)


LOL, couldn't agree more.

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Sep 23, 2011 21:39:42   #
Perry Loc: Washington Michigan
 
"Real photographers don't post edit" huh?

Ok, I am not a "real photographer" then. There I said it... LOL, hope the elitists feel better now...

I mess with Paint Shop Photo Pro X3, X4, and I have been since it was JASC PSP 7, and I enjoy doing blended photos and collages especially, so I guess that makes me a graphics hound, eh? Well since I would rather take my own pictures and blend them to make a real stand out graphic that my friends and family appreciate than to snag them off the net and claim them as my own, I take pics and blend them together into "art". Not everyone may appreciate that kind of stuff, but I get family and friends telling me they really like what I blend together for them into an artistic picture.

Bottom line: Photography, graphics, what have you, is meant for your enjoyment and for those you love, and if you and the recipient of your art is happy, that's what matters at the end of the day.

If someone considers themselves "purists" in photography, they need to read a little about photography and photographers and what they do to "create" a picture. If 1/2 of them knew what went on behind the scenes to create a certain shot or impression, most of them would probably either get over themselves, or sell their camera.

Please enjoy life a little more my "Picasso" friends, and lighten up. We are all learning, and it's supposed to be fun. You can enjoy life a little and not be so serious.

If you're good enough to sell your pics, more power to you. I hope one day to aspire to that level myself. Until then, I will try to put a smile on my family's and friends' faces, and dream of the day when I can afford a $2000.00 camera, and can show my art to friends and family at get togethers.

This is my mother's family when they were young, I blended their family portrait with some images I found on the net before I got my camera. I had to seriously edit the family portrait as it was scanned from an old photo that was in extremely bad shape, but since 3 of those in the photo are now gone, and one more is in stage 4 with cancer, it wasn't feasable to get a "redo". My family treasures this collage, and that's what matters to me.
This is my mother's family when they were young, I...

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Sep 23, 2011 21:45:54   #
Sarge Loc: St. Mary's Co., Maryland
 
A real photographer is a photographer who takes alot of photographs that don't need to be manipulated or photoshoped. But is also capable of manipultion skills to get the most of his/her photography. If you are so good you never need photography software, what camera did you use that has settings on it to produce HDR, or focus stacking, just for starts?

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Sep 23, 2011 22:11:43   #
Perry Loc: Washington Michigan
 
bobmielke wrote:
Glen wrote:
It seems the whole purpose of taking photos in the RAW format is to post process so as to bring out the best they have to offer......... therefore PP must be an expected procedure in the digital world of photography.


I've only taken one RAW photo where I had minimal post processing. I don't know if I'll ever run into that set of circumstances again.


There are a few pictures that are so nice that any editing other than a subtle tweak or 2 would actually diminish it's quality. This one is one of them. I'm not a fan of elephants, but I would LOVE to have one like this in my own collection.

Very nicely done!

My wife took a picture of a female cardinal on a branch of a dead tree at sunset that made her look like she was made of bronze. It was so majestic, I couldn't do a SINGLE thing to enhance it in any way. That was a rare event, shot of a life time. I had only got her the camera a few weeks before for Mother's day. When Father's day came around, she was worried I would want a $500 camera or something in that range, and I told her that all I wanted was a real nice frame, and her signature on that picture of the female Cardinal for me. She signed the front of it in the lower left corner, and wrote me a real nice love letter on the back of it. It's sitting in our living room, and I consider it a treasure. She was completely overwhelmed that I thought that much of that picture, but it was her picture, her perspective of that bird, and the perfect sunset, and it was given to me with loving devotion that cannot be manufactured or "captured" by the best camera equipment, as it came from her heart.

This is one I would ask that nobody copy, or alter as I have it water marked and it's my wife's work, not mine. I wanted to show it to give everyone a visual of what I was talking about.
This is one I would ask that nobody copy, or alter...

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Sep 23, 2011 22:14:03   #
Perry Loc: Washington Michigan
 
Sarge wrote:
A real photographer is a photographer who takes alot of photographs that don't need to be manipulated or photoshoped. But is also capable of manipultion skills to get the most of his/her photography. If you are so good you never need photography software, what camera did you use that has settings on it to produce HDR, or focus stacking, just for starts?


LOL, VERY good point. :)

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