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Sep 16, 2013 23:42:42   #
UP-2-IT Loc: RED STICK, LA
 
jimmya wrote:
Actually your work is copyrighted the instant you shoot it... no need to go any further. Besides if someone were to steal your work and you wanted to go after it, there would be a very long, very expensive legal battle, court time, lawyers and lots of money spent for what?

All of us who've been in the business for a long time don't bother because only the honest guy will be honest.

Good luck


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Sep 17, 2013 00:13:09   #
georgevedwards Loc: Essex, Maryland.
 
Who else to trust to health care? A bunch of thieving companies run by greedy people who see the need of a product directly proportional to how far they can squeeze your b@lls to buy that yacht, Cadillac, mansion, etc?
MisterWilson wrote:
The same government in charge of copyright information will soon be in charge of your health care.

Isn't that reassuring?

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Sep 17, 2013 00:53:21   #
bobagedon Loc: Nebraska
 
georgevedwards wrote:
Who else to trust to health care? A bunch of thieving companies run by greedy people who see the need of a product directly proportional to how far they can squeeze your b@lls to buy that yacht, Cadillac, mansion, etc?


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Sep 17, 2013 01:34:29   #
UP-2-IT Loc: RED STICK, LA
 
georgevedwards wrote:
Who else to trust to health care? A bunch of thieving companies run by greedy people who see the need of a product directly proportional to how far they can squeeze your b@lls to buy that yacht, Cadillac, mansion, etc?


Personally not concerned about the health care issue but that wasn't what the subject of the post was about. You have a twisted outlook on life friend. But thats your priviledge.

Not going any further with this attempt at hijacking anothers post, it's forbidden in the rules.

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Sep 17, 2013 11:07:59   #
SwedeUSA
 
[quote=Bmac]It costs a fee to register your copyright.

Another example of a poster who doesn't read the what he/she is responding to. There is NO COST to the copyright.
REGISTERING your photo is a different animal and has NOTHING to do with your right to the copy.

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Sep 17, 2013 11:53:45   #
Wall-E Loc: Phoenix, AZ
 
Jim Peters wrote:
All It will Cost You Is A Postage Stamp.


???

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Sep 17, 2013 14:33:27   #
Los-Angeles-Shooter Loc: Los Angeles
 
Jim Peters wrote:
Look Up Common Law Copyright On the Internet Is Is the Easiest Way To do It.All It will Cost You Is A Postage Stamp.


I'm familiar with the concept. It has been repudiated by courts in the USA, UK, and elsewhere. It is no substitute for timely registration of copyright. Registration is required anyhow, to file a lawsuit. If you file without registering you'll be thrown out of court.

As long as I'm sitting here debunking, may as well also debunk "poor man's copyright." (Herein, "PMC") PMC is the notion that it's good enough to send copies of the work to yourself by dated registered mail. The myth of PMC is so widespread that even the copyright office has warned people it is worthless:
http://www.copyright.gov/help/faq/faq-general.html

The first, last, and foremost thing every photographer should know about copyright is that timely registration is the key to protecting one's work and enforcing copyright against thieves.

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Sep 17, 2013 14:42:29   #
SwedeUSA
 
Los-Angeles-Shooter wrote:
I'm familiar with the concept. It has been repudiated by courts in the USA, UK, and elsewhere. It is no substitute for timely registration of copyright. Registration is required anyhow, to file a lawsuit. If you file without registering you'll be thrown out of court.

As long as I'm sitting here debunking, may as well also debunk "poor man's copyright." (Herein, "PMC") PMC is the notion that it's good enough to send copies of the work to yourself by dated registered mail. The myth of PMC is so widespread that even the copyright office has warned people it is worthless:
http://www.copyright.gov/help/faq/faq-general.html

The first, last, and foremost thing every photographer should know about copyright is that timely registration is the key to protecting one's work and enforcing copyright against thieves.
I'm familiar with the concept. It has been repudia... (show quote)


BS everywhere in this post! Please don't trust and rely on unlicensed "lawyers" posts on this forum! Everywhere in this topic there's a confusion between the right to a copy and the enforcement of a breach thereof.

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Sep 17, 2013 15:58:51   #
Wall-E Loc: Phoenix, AZ
 
SwedeUSA wrote:
BS everywhere in this post! Please don't trust and rely on unlicensed "lawyers" posts on this forum! Everywhere in this topic there's a confusion between the right to a copy and the enforcement of a breach thereof.


OK, so what's the BS?

Please quote chapter and verse.
As Los-Angeles-Shooter did.

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Sep 17, 2013 18:57:37   #
SwedeUSA
 
[quote=Wall-E]OK, so what's the BS?

The failure to recognize the difference between the right of copy and the registration thereof. What's the difficulty in understanding this?

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Sep 17, 2013 19:57:33   #
Jim Peters Loc: Pittsburgh
 
I Understand Where you are Coming from. Copyright Laws Are On A Federal Level. If someone Steels You image From Another Country Ouch! Even If you Could Do something About It It would Cost you Far More Than It Is worth.The Internet Puts You In A Target Position.

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Sep 18, 2013 08:45:06   #
SwedeUSA
 
Jim Peters wrote:
I Understand Where you are Coming from. Copyright Laws Are On A Federal Level. If someone Steels You image From Another Country Ouch! Even If you Could Do something About It It would Cost you Far More Than It Is worth.The Internet Puts You In A Target Position.


Again, there are so many misconceptions and misleading posts here on this forum, and false statements.
There are international copyright treaties and conventions that set the rules for international infringements on protected copyrights.

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Sep 18, 2013 11:26:30   #
Bmac Loc: Long Island, NY
 
Bmac wrote:
It costs a fee to register your copyright.

Filing an Original Claim to Copyright with the U.S. Copyright Office
An application for copyright registration contains three essential elements: a completed application form, a nonre­fundable filing fee, and a nonreturnable deposit—that is, a copy or copies of the work being registered and “deposited” with the Copyright Office.

Above excerpt from: http://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ01.pdf


SwedeUSA wrote:
Another example of a poster who doesn't read the what he/she is responding to. There is NO COST to the copyright.
REGISTERING your photo is a different animal and has NOTHING to do with your right to the copy.

Yes, I did read what I was responding to. My post was factual and an attempt to differentiate the difference between gaining copyright and registering a copyright which costs a fee, hence my bold facing of the word register in my post. Los-Angeles-Shooter explained this in detail so I have no idea what you are arguing with me about. Perhaps you do not read nor understand what you are responding to?

By the way, registering a copyright has everything to do with someone's right to a copyright, for without registering such copyrights your ability to recover monies for any violations is severely limited or negated. That's an important connection.

Obviously (to me) if someone is asking about copyrights they are concerned with protecting their photos from theft and having legal resource if they are stolen. To achieve this one needs to register the copyrights. It's really that simple. 8-)

Following are excepts from the U.S. Copyright Office (FAQ). My bold facing.
http://www.copyright.gov/help/faq/faq-general.html

When is my work protected?
Your work is under copyright protection the moment it is created and fixed in a tangible form that it is perceptible either directly or with the aid of a machine or device.

Do I have to register with your office to be protected?
No. In general, registration is voluntary. Copyright exists from the moment the work is created. You will have to register, however, if you wish to bring a lawsuit for infringement of a U.S. work. See Circular 1, Copyright Basics, section “Copyright Registration.”

Why should I register my work if copyright protection is automatic?
Registration is recommended for a number of reasons. Many choose to register their works because they wish to have the facts of their copyright on the public record and have a certificate of registration. Registered works may be eligible for statutory damages and attorney's fees in successful litigation. Finally, if registration occurs within 5 years of publication, it is considered prima facie evidence in a court of law. See Circular 1, Copyright Basics, section “Copyright Registration” and Circular 38b, Highlights of Copyright Amendments Contained in the Uruguay Round Agreements Act (URAA), on non-U.S. works.

I’ve heard about a “poor man’s copyright.” What is it?
The practice of sending a copy of your own work to yourself is sometimes called a “poor man’s copyright.” There is no provision in the copyright law regarding any such type of protection, and it is not a substitute for registration.

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